- cross-posted to:
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- cross-posted to:
- android@lemdro.id
- hackernews@lemmy.bestiver.se
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I wish there was a budget, say 200 Euros, phone that supported grapheneOS. I never buy a more expensive phone than that, as I find phones in that price range more than enough…
Also, fuck the size of today’s phones. They are way too big.
Could somone ELI5.
When discussing other ROMs I was told ROMs would be dead given that need to keep android open. I took that to mean micro G and many, many, other apps would break due to Devs unwilling (or unable?) to support non play store apps.
How then would gOS continue, especially with a hardware partner? I understand the Google lockdown is upstream so gOS will be in the same boat, with things Accrcent (store) and Vanadium.
Thanks.
There are basically 3 types of OSs out there:
- Google-approved android (these come with Google apps, and most importantly Google services, which are basically what is going to BD doing the blocking for the cause Keep Android Open is concerned about. Google services already has some additional attestation stuff in, which many banks use, which only work if you’ve got a stock google-approved OS)
- Non Google approved android (generally based on AOSP which is the actually open source code Google publishes for android, these don’t come with google services so they fail the play store attestation, generally people will be needing microg to use stuff like YouTube, which is basically a light google services replacement)
- Graphene OS (it gets its special category because it sandboxes apps so you can use Google services apps in a way that doesn’t give them access to the rest of your system and therefore shouldn’t be able to mess with what you want to install, best of both worlds but it’s not foolproof).
There are a few other projects like /e/ but that’s just AOSP with a coat of paint, graphene is a much more substantial change to how your phone locks down app access.
I thought the (most expensive) Pixels are high end flagships?
They are not. I was very disappointed that it was a step down for pixel 10 pro over a phone I already had for five years.
They are mediocre in every way.
They are, but historically they’ve been at an unusually low price point for what they offer. I think the latest upcoming Pixel is the first to be priced more “normally”.
The CPUs in Pixels are kind of average because google uses their own design. So a highend Qualcomm or the like, will be better.
I really wish Graphene OS worked on other phones.
My current daily driver is an HMD Skyline also have a Motorola, Sony Xperia and a Nokia Android from 2017-2018 with a shattered screen but might still be repairable and can be used as is but none are listed as compatible.
Because they don’t have the TPM lock they want for enhanced security. It’s a nonstarter for GrapheneOS devs and the reason only now they’re starting to branch out. However they mentioned literally Qualcomm by name integrating it on their latest elite series, so I’m thinking more devices might be compatible in the future?
