We really need some consumer protections around emails.
Imagine if your landlord could just intercept your mail on the same way.
It’s part of our identities.
We’re living in the Wild-West of the internet
While I agree with your point, this is more like signing a rental agreement allowing your landlord to enter your apartment unannounced and without you being present, and then crying about it when they do exactly that. I wouldn’t use hotmail as a throwaway account, let alone to develop the main Foss competitor of office.
What isn’t made clear is if this had anything to do with him being a LibreOffice developer. Or just the usual Kafkaesque bullshit that happens when someone’s account gets flagged for “suspicious activity” or whatever and they cannot get a real human being to help or reverse the problem.
Or the terrifyingly-random bullshit that happens when someone chooses to depend on a free service such as Hotmail as their primary mission-critical address. (This article is about the developer getting locked out of their Hotmail, and the generally-broken state of Hotmail’s account recovery process.)
Doesn’t he live in Moscow? So it might just be due to the sanctions.
Or the terrifyingly-random bullshit that happens when someone chooses to depend on a free service such as Hotmail as their primary mission-critical address. (This article is about the developer getting locked out of their Hotmail, and the generally-broken state of Hotmail’s account recovery process.)
That could be it. What is certain is that these big corps really don’t want to pay human beings to sort out issues so if you get caught in the middle of some BS you may have no recourse out of it.
Well now i know Linux is ready to switch over to.
Thanks Microsoft!
why are people that are building FOSS software not using FOSS software to build it? Gitlab? Forgejo?
People are complicated and FOSS isn’t as simple as all or nothing.
Sometimes people have things setup before they discovered FOSS - it’s hard for me to give up my gmail account from age 14, even though I run my own domain now.
Sometimes FOSS gets captured - Microsoft owns githib now, which makes tough decisions for all the projects hosted there.
I’m on the outside so forgive me if this is a dumb question, didn’t Linus Torvalds create GitHub?
git is a very complex undo/redo tool designed to simultaneously track the changes made to multiple documents by multiple users while being efficient with managing disk space and other resources. (It also has other clever tricks it can do). It was created by Linus Torvalds, current development is led by Junio Hamano.
Chris Wanstrath, P. J. Hyett, Tom Preston-Werner and Scott Chacon made GitHub.com, which was eventually sold to Microsoft. GitHub does two things well: -You can easily clone any project hosted with them to your own git repository using the command ‘git clone https://github.com/[Username]/[ProjectName]’ -The rest of the public website is basically a looking glass for everything git does under the hood natively (but with a nice webUI instead of a cold command prompt).
Personally I lost faith in GitHub when it started offering Copilot assistant. We’re only a two heartbeats away from Microsoft saying that using Copilot for any of your projects code constitutes Microsoft contributed to that project as a precursor to Microsoft saying it basically ‘owns’ all this open-source stuff. Embrace, extend, extinguish (I recommend everyone run docker and GitTea to create a personal clone store (give your favorite projects insurance) and that all developers move away from GitHub)
Thanks for the reply, cheers.
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Why do I feel like any customer support has been replaced by ai and it has led to this show of shit?
Replaced? They didn’t have any in the first place
Most likely, yes. Probably some sort of automation that ran wild.
Big tech companies never had any CS people.
Eat shit, microsoft
EU should really create rule to use only EU FOSS tech for goverment services. For all member states.
Can someone suggest me good alternatives to both Microsoft’s mailing system (Outlook, etc.), and to Github, just in case?
For Outlook as an E-Mail client: I like Claws-Mail or just standard Thunderbird.
For Outlook as an E-Mail Service: Either Self-Host or find a good provider (I have a small German company where I pay 1€/month and get great service)
As an GitHub alternative, I use sourcehut. The link is sr.ht btw
I use Codeberg.
Edit: fixed the link.
Link errors out when I try to open it
They’re annoyingly only allowing open source repos and active forks etc…
Self hosting email is HARD if you aren’t an expert but I figured it out. It took a while to get it stable and usable but man it has felt so good being in control of my email. Worth the effort. I use mailu, which is docker based. Works great.
Id argue it hard to set up, we not hard just lots of interconnecting pieces, but once you are going it’s very easy to maintain. I just set up an email server from scratch in a about a day.
That’s fair, I definitely took longer than that but I’m far from experienced in all this. Still, it was worth the effort in the end.
I use posteo.de, rarely with the web interface though, I use software clients for email
What was a LibreOffice developer doing using Microsoft stuff in the first place?
If you use Microsoft or Meta or any of the usual suspects, and they screw up or get hacked or behave badly, don’t be all surprised and complain. It’s what they do, and they don’t care, and never listen. You know this.
I am a newbie in LibreOffice, but I am wondering whether me chronicling my first experiences in it would be worth doing.
I think what we sorely lack is more people like Nick and Michael Horn making approachable tech news about this niche.
I understand that to some the idea itself of the tech news cycle, focused on its own navel all the time is not appealing, but I think that is exactly there that a channel like this could distinguish itself, showcasing OSS solutions having an impact on the public good, something the usual news outlets cannot afford to do since every second is lost revenue.
The only risk is being boring.
I think it would be worthwhile, and probably help some people.
probably forgot the account still existed. was it libreoffice@hotmail.com? eh
Microsoft going down the shitter
Old news.
This tells me LibreOffice has become a threat to Microsoft, and I’m here for it.
If anyone else is curious what it’s like, LibreOffice’s site is here. Highly recommend.
Probably has something to do with more and more things like this happening:
https://cybernews.com/news/france-lyon-microsoft-office-tech-adoption/
using Microsoft Word for too long makes me break out in Tourette’s
Writer is so much more understandable
Word is proof that there is no God and that we’re all alone in the cold vacuum of space. Word is every traffic light being red. Word is getting an itchy arsehole because you couldn’t quite wipe yourself properly.
I don’t think anything in the software world has ever pissed me off as much as the fucking ribbon. “We’ve run out of ideas as far as the UI is concerned - just throw everything up there somewhere, menus, toolbars, whatever”. A close second was their genius idea of hiding unused menu items so the locations of the items you do use are constantly changing.
I don’t use MS products any more but my 90 yo parents do and it’s a fucking nightmare trying to help them with stuff. MS Office is certifiable elder abuse.
Office 97 was the last good Office. No auto-adjusting menus, no ribbons, you could actually provide phone support and have confidence that both people were seeing the same thing.
It tells me microsoft is petty
They literally blew billions of dollars and years of developer time just to screw the companies that won the argument of “open internet or Microsoft protocol” back in the day. Yes, petty.
Large corporations have zero empathy for competition.
What will their quarterly report say? Think of the stockholders. (/s)
If large corporations have zero empathy for their competition, why do they have such an easy time coordinating raising grocery prices well above the free market optimum?
Large corporations are owned by capital holders. Often it’s the same set of capital holders owning different corporations because they’ve diversified their assets. It is not in the interest of their owners to have a free market race to the bottom.
So they make deals. And when socialists force the government to forbid those deals, they find Schelling points where they can make deals without making deals. It’s not collusion; it’s covid supply issues; ask anyone. And with neoliberal/neocon dismantling of regulatory agencies they can just do it.
So they have empathy for other large corporations. But it goes further than that. At least for now, capital assets are still managed by people. Those people are flesh and blood. They eat, they socialize, they make friends, and they care about their friends and acquaintances. And this caring is embedded into the choices that they make at work, where they compete against their friends and acquaintances.
So large corporations have empathy not just for other corporations, but also for rich people in general. Golden parachutes, nepotist appointments, favors, massively overpaid C-suite execs and expensive consultancy jobs from each other’s hobby projects.
Corporations bleed trillions of dollars for the sake of empathy with their competitors and with private individuals, they just won’t accept a competitor to bourgeoisie hegemony.
I visited a local Microsoft office in the mid-90s. Their office employee kitchen had a poster of the Internet Explorer logo smashing the Netscape logo to a bloody pulp.
I worked for apple
It was creepy. I have been in litteral sex-cults that felt less cultish and close-minded.
I got recruited by Apple some years ago because of my Stack Overflow account. I’m glad I ignored them, although there’s something to be said for an ungodly salary and Apple stock options.
I have plenty of thoughts about their majority shareholders.
Its just none of those thoughts are positive.
It’s not even that. It’s way smaller potatoes down in the org chart.
People always say “why would large company do this” and the answer is almost always that guy 7 or 8 rows down the org chart needs this to get their bonus this year and that point gets distilled into 1 bullet in a power point presentation that is summarized by chatgpt.
