I really don’t think any of our politicians are ready to move away from the US. We need someone with some spine to step up.
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That the US becomes a fascist autocracy is now a significant possibility — some argue it already has. History shows that such regimes are very difficult to remove without some external event like losing a war. Are Australian policymakers grappling with what this means for our security? Can Australia be a loyal ally of a fascist autocracy? We’ve been content to ally ourselves with the US despite many repugnant features of its polity — its murderous gun obsession; its enthusiasm for invasion and mass murder in other countries — so perhaps the answer is that, yes, we will be. Let Trump trash US democracy and basic human rights, as long as he flogs us those subs.
How much more evidence does Australia need that being a US “ally” now brings no benefits in the event of a threat from a hostile power? Ask Ukraine. Ask Poland. Ask Qatar. An Albanese-Trump meeting isn’t going to provide any guarantees about security. Trump’s words are irrelevant; it’s his actions, or inaction, that tell the story.
But there’s a more pragmatic calculation: if we need a fascist autocracy in the United States to protect us from a nationalist autocracy in China, perhaps we’d be better off with the more stable and economically prosperous of those two.
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Grin and bear it?
No we let our politicians slowly put in place the conditions for fascism.
Metadata retention
Assistance and access bill
Identify and disrupt bill
Age verification bullshit
Anti protest laws.
Pretty soon you won’t be able to disagree with libor / laborel here either.
I bet that the fascist tech laws will be used to silence and punish government critics.
I feel like all of this control is coming in for that exact reason. Governments can control what is shown and will have the identities of dissidents
This argues an interesting point. It kind of makes me wonder what happens if the US loses Australia as an ally.
Probably bad right?
I think most americans aren’t even aware that australia exists, most of the time, so they won’t bother too much.
What it means for australia could be a huge change, i guess.
We put our balls firmly in their vice and they aren’t moving. If anything every Australian government, regardless of politics tries to tuck a bit more in every year with the standout concessions being digital sovereignty which is truly fucked and about to get much worse. It isn’t just the military/intelligence stuff. They have massive investment here and dominate financial and digital services. Probably the best we can hope for is to be neutral where we can along with a bit of malicious compliance.
There’s no doubt Australia is strategically useful to the US(Pine gap, Exmouth, Garden Island), if the US continues its current course then the US ceases to be useful to Australia.
I can’t imagine that everyone in power doesn’t know this, maybe they’re all waiting to see if normality returns in 2028…
Me too.
What do you mean “if”?!?
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It’s not over until they nuke NYC
Nah, they’ll just turn it into a giant prison as foretold in the 1981 movie Escape from New York.
We should have years ago, I think its impossible now. We use their IT everywhere for example, who hosts taz office records ? We have their military bases everywhere , look what happned to the ICC. How we let ourselves give up our digital soveriginety is an all time disaster thats unfurled.
The turning point for me was when George Bush was in then Australian Parliament and Senator Bob Brown was banned. An elected Australia senator was banned from Parlment. I started voting Green then.
We should really align ourselves with the EU and move away from the US.conplelty, the US jumped the shark with Trump the first time and we still didn’t pay attention, going the ANKUS root is a fucking national embarrassment
Regardless you’re not going to get any change from the ALP nor LNP, they’re too embedded in the orthodoxy.
The problem with fascism is that it’s not just the USA. It’s coming quick to Canada. Germany’s AfD are just a few more elections from winning big. There are more… it’s just going to be real rough to be NOT a fascist country when so many of them will be.
Reform in the UK, National Rally in France.
That leaves India as the most “liberal and democratic” of the nuclear armed countries in the coming decade. Followed by Cuba.
I don’t agree with this assessment of India. It is also on a right-wing, authoritarian path under the Hindu nationalist BJP. In bed with Putin too. India as it is now is no champion for liberal democracy unfortunately.
The competition, Reform in the UK, Trump in the US, National Rally in France, Likud in Israel, make India the least authoritarian of the lot.
That’s not comforting at all!!!
Australia is very limited in how it can move away from America, because the Coalition enthusiastically sells us out to them any chance they can get.
Albanese, by repairing our relationship with China, is putting us on the right track. He can’t get out of AUKUS and there may even be advantages to that such as giving Albanese Trump’s ear and allowing him to potentially stop a war with China. I don’t pay enough attention to what Albanese is doing behind the scenes to strengthen Australia’s sovereignty.
if?
I was with until qatar, qatar harboured the terrorists who stole all the billions of palestianian aid money
our natural allies are the Commonwealth and Europe, with whom we share history, values and similar political ideologies
None of Poland, Qatar, or Ukraine make sense as Australian allies. The point is that all 3 are allegedly under the protection of the USA and all three have seen attacks that the USA has ignored… We cannot think that we can rely on the USA to defend us.
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explain in detail how australia is a fascist autocracy?
