• DarkFuture@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    American here.

    Keep doing what you’re doing Canada. Don’t play this retard’s game. The ONLY thing conservatives understand is money. Hit them where it hurts. It’s the only thing that’ll make them sour on this traitor.

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      5 months ago

      Yeah the world’s doing its part, but it’d be nice if Americans did theirs.

      Other than Bernie Sanders, the rest sure like to bitch a lot, but actions speak louder and they’re not getting out of their couches…

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      American trade is nearly worth half of Canada’s total GDP. something like 75~80% of total Canadian exports go to the US. if they actually retaliate in force they could be dooming their country to an economic crisis if Trump is spiteful enough. so far the Canadian tariffs have only touched about $30B worth of goods, or 7% of the total trade.

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        Bottom line is Canada can’t rely on an unreliable country that literally threatens them.

        It’s time for the world to move away from working with the U.S. We’ve shown we aren’t trustworthy. Canada needs to increase trade to other countries to compensate.

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        5 months ago

        While true, the Canadian government has already announced grants and loans to help Canadian companies restructure their supply chains away from the US. It’s a start. While the legal framework exists, Canadian companies haven’t yet had a reason to take advantage of new free trade agreements with the EU and the Asia Pacific. Now they do.

        Also, in terms of numbers: about 25% of Canadian GDP is based on US trade; a little lower than the number you quoted, still too high, I’d say. Hopefully, the Canadian economies’ smaller size will prove agile enough for the transition. I’ve also seen it suggested that the hit to the Canadian economy from Trump’s attacks could be offset by removing internal trade barriers so that Canada can trade more efficiently with itself. This has been a huge shot in the arm for that project.

        20% of US exports go to the EU, 18% go to Canada, 17% to Mexico, and less than 10% to China. Similarly, about 70% of US imports come from those same markets. This will be devastating for everyone, the US included. It won’t be the ‘short period of transition’ the bloated diet coke goblin imagines. World trade patterns and supply chains will literally be upended.

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      5 months ago

      I think that the Canadian politicians fear that then the economic struggle due to tariff wars may cause resentment against them than the USA. So they try to find a way to avoid a war

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    5 months ago

    “I feel terrible for the American people because it’s not the American people, and it’s not even elected officials, it’s one person,”

    Like hell. Congress is the one thing with the power to end this madness. The Republicans in control of both houses are absolutely responsible as they are doing literally nothing to rein in Trump’s madness.

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      5 months ago

      Agreed. It’s 80% of the elected officials at this point. It’s unfortunate that foreign puppets are in power.

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      Idk how much of a threat it actually is, but wasn’t musk threatening to primary anyone who went against him?

      • NiHaDuncan@lemmy.world
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        I initially read this as if Musk said he’d have them killed, since in EVE Online “to primary” someone means for a fleet commander to call someone out as the primary target and have their fleet start shooting at them.

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        5 months ago

        If a threat from an unelected foreign Nazi is all it takes to keep you from doing your job, you’re not fit to hold public office.

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      5 months ago

      they are enabling and complicit, the gop also dont want to feel TRUMPs wrath and they also want to grift from whats hes getting from billionaires and russia.

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      5 months ago

      The vast majority of people either voted for Trump or didn’t vote at all. Americans chose this madness either through action or inaction. They should feel accountable for the forthcoming consequences. Democracy in action.

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    5 months ago

    Something also not touched on in the article is the HUGE number of ukrainians we have in our country, particularly in the praries. We’re ranked in the top 3 for ukrianians/Ukraine heritage, below Ukraine and Russia.

    I’d argue most Canadians are pretty pro-Ukraine, and the US wiffle-waffling on that as well stings deep.

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      I get it’s ‘the US’ because he was voted in but it’s not the US it’s one fucking moron. Our country bumkins are misinformed idiots that got him to power, yes, but population centers aka well educated folks are blue and we fucking hate every minute of this shit. Hence demonstrations at all state capitols multiple times over the last 2 months. Idk I’m probably making a moot point. I just can’t stand being thrown in a pile with the current administration, him winning or not, none of this is okay.

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        Bit tired of hearing this NGL, the problem is with your entire country and frankly that includes casting off the American rural poor as “idiotic country bumkins”. Stuff like that is exactly what will turn them away from your ideals & into the hands of those pointing at the snobbish urban elites looking down at them.

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    “I feel terrible for the American people because it’s not the American people, and it’s not even elected officials, it’s one person,”

    Americans elected Trump, and Americans are failing to do anything to reign Trump in.
    These are the official policies for the COUNTRY! So unfortunately, this is not just one person, it is de facto USA as a whole.

    If it was only Trump, it would just be Trump refusing to buy Canadian for himself. As it is, the whole apparatus is enforcing these decisions, and they impact all of USA.

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    Honest question - are Canadians generally fine with normal US citizens with no untoward agenda still coming to visit and shop in Canada? I love partaking in the cuisine, a museum, and a library in a relatively nearby border town. Especially the more ethnically-diverse cuisine, because shitty generic Americana fare gets tiresome. Canadian Tire is fun, too, although I do secretly wonder why it’s not Canadian Tyre. Curious to know if US plates on a car in Canada generate a negative response nowadays.

    Also, I’m sorry about the reality for which I felt the need to ask this question.

    • gonzo-rand19@moist.catsweat.com
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      Come spend your money, just don’t act all full of yourself like some Americans do.

      Also, “tyre” is British spelling. We kind of have our own spelling where we generally use British spelling, but not for everything. For example, we don’t spell fetus as “foetus” or estrogen as “oestrogen” either. There’s probably some fancy official name for it.

  • MyMotherIsAHamster@lemmy.ca
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    Hell yeah - it’ll be a looooong time, if ever, before we can trust the U.S. again as a neighbour and ally. Right now, they’re nothing less than an enemy.

  • But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world
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    Yeah we’re not playing this back and forth game, just hit the Americans with tariffs and make them stick. Tbh I’m liking this “buy Canadian” movement that Americans have finally awakened