• crimson_iris@piefed.social
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    8 hours ago

    Main problem isn’t putin. Problem is russian culture. Putin is just the latest turd to float to the top.

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      49 minutes ago

      I’m not sure which version of “red scare” you are referring to, but I know how nice most Russians are. Putin & his oligarchs are & have always been the problem.

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      5 hours ago

      It’s been 26 years. I think it’s fair to say he’s an active participant to creating and managing a culture that keeps him where he is, rather than merely being the guy the wind blew in.

      And, I’d argue that started very very earlier. He false flag bombed some apartments pretty early on.

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        39 minutes ago

        To my mind, Russia is just ahead of the curve — it’s a country that underwent wholesale collapse in the 90’s and was ultimately stabilized by Putin and his oligarchs molding the ruins of the Soviet empire to their benefit.

        Now the US is teetering on collapse as well, with dollar hegemony drawing to an end and global financial markets in some kind of a hissy fit to reshuffle wealth before the music stops for the AI bubble (and ultimately the real economy crumbling from climate destabilization).

        Elon Musk soon becoming a trillionaire is the fourth horseman of the capitalist apocalypse. I have very little faith in the reasoning of anybody who cannot see that a failed car salesman and notorious lunatic being the richest person in the world – by a wide margin – is a sign of an economic system that is profoundly unwell.

        Sadly, I think Trump and Putin may be previews for what’s to come when the oligarchs of world use the chaos to impose a new economic order, based on AI surveillance and severe policing of those not ”loyal” to the nebulous interests of the government(s). To my mind, it’s unlikely to be harmonious or pleasant to those in the ever expanding, bottom rung of societies like that.

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        5 hours ago

        I agree, he’s likely done everything he could to make sure people don’t figure out a way to get rid of him. I’m definitely not saying he was a passive participant in the phenomenon. He’s been there for a long time now. I’m just saying he’s more of a symptom of the greater cause that is the sick fucking thing called russian culture. Getting rid of putin alone won’t fix things any more than getting rid of trump in the US will there.

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          39 minutes ago

          Culture is the aggregate of about 1 billion things.

          I hear you when you’re saying there isn’t a “try this 1 simple trick!” Fix.

          But just because something isn’t “fixed” doesn’t mean it’s not “better” or “getting better” or at least “not getting worse as fast”. Position, velocity, acceleration.

          It’s a great start. Why concede defeat before the game even begins?