• Did Platner just want to kill brown people? That man went for several tours in Iraq and Afghanistan, he was literally a prison guard at Abu Ghraib, he joined the most infamous mercenary outfit of that period of imperialist genocide in the Middle East, i’d be really surprised if he hasn’t murdered people himself.

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    You’d think Chris Smalls SA’d someone or undermined the entire labor movement if you read the Jacobin article and the trueanon subreddit. The level of vitriol is just fucking weird.

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      They see the laundry list of terrible shit Platner has done and say you need to be OK with it because he’s just a smol bean pushing for M4A and an antizionist.

      Chris Smalls pushed for Amazon workers to organize and put his life on the line for Palestinians, but, oh no he might have let the spotlight get to him a bit.

      Weird how pointing out Platner’s history is a smear, but suddenly they feel the need to bring down a POC labor organizer.

      Purelyus-foreign-policy by a bunch of racist radlibs.

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        They see the laundry list of terrible shit Platner has done and say you need to be OK with it because he’s just a smol bean pushing for M4A and an antizionist.

        Even better platner sees that and is just fully embracing they’re just weaponizing my history because scared of me and supporters are eating it up.

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      The only maybe (hard to say honestly) credible criticisms I’ve heard about Smalls is that he’s a bit egotistical and likes to garner a fanclub. From one of those “another liberal has written a scathing Google Doc and shared it with everyone” kinds of things. But this is so unimportant and minor, the decision to even write and share it is questionable. Like if he’s a little annoying and it gets in the way of organizing just spend your time out-organizing him instead.

      These kinds of hit pieces are only attractive to liberals who see him as a threat. He criticizes their projects so now he’s on the NYC DSA lib hitlist, they’re going to write a Jacobin article about him so hard.

      The TrueAnon subreddit is completely incoherent and has a lot of reactionary sentiments. I think its only saving grace is the crossover from our community.

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        Reminds me of the “Starmichael” criticism for Stokely Carmichael before he was Kwame Ture. I bet we could find similar grumbling about Big Bill Heywood or any other labor leader who was known to the general public.

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        yeah trueanon subreddit is like 50% the same as here, 25% redscarepod and 25% DSA libs

        results in very weird comment sections that are sometimes based, sometimes read like r/politics and sometimes have edgy reactionary sentiment

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          They have a hard-line on China that results in a lot of reasonable people being banned. You can’t even have a nuanced position like supporting them as a socialist state but believing they need to do more international support. I got permabanned there for arguing that very position with someone.

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        lol the sub got colonized by radlibs, the oldheads don’t rear their heads much unless it’s to defend using ableist slurs

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            You know it’s over when posts from the sub start hitting r/all. That and being liberal “ironically” to try to avoid getting banned attracting actual liberals.

            Honestly expect to start seeing Occupy Democrats memes being shared unironically by the end of the decade

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              Cool people got banned or left. New people didn’t all realize being a liberal conservatives is just a bit.

              And didn’t help that blue anon became a thing and libs got really into talking about Epstein too.

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        There was a thread immediately following the Jacobin story, and the sub’s initial reaction to it, by a amazon union worker who brought up legitimate grievances about his leadership and his abilities as an organizer but drenched it in the same nagging and derisive tone as that of the Jacobin article.

        A lot of the criticisms may be fair but why tear down the character of a comrade? Immediately following the release of his book, at that. Just seems weird, almost suspect.

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          To indulge in irresponsible criticism in private instead of actively putting forward one’s suggestions to the organization. To say nothing to people to their faces but to gossip behind their backs, or to say nothing at a meeting but to gossip afterwards. To show no regard at all for the principles of collective life but to follow one’s own inclination. This is a second type [of liberalism].