here’s no world in which current shareholders don’t make fuckoff amounts of profit.
Well some of the shareholders, clearly none of the peope who had to wait for the IPO are going to make some unless they managed to sell off in the 4 days after IPO.
Beyond that, we don’t know that much about the pre-IPO costs and how low it can go for them to still make out like bandits.
none of the peope who had to wait for the IPO are going to make some unless they managed to sell off in the 4 days after IPO.
Fully unironically know a few folks who did exactly that. Got in at $135 and sold on the way up to $200, because it’s insane to hold a company with a P/E of… 1000x? Something stupid like that.
we don’t know that much about the pre-IPO costs
We know what firms like Thiel’s Founder’s Fund and Andressen Horowitz paid for minority positions during the earlier funding rounds (Series A -J and assorted debt swaps). And we also know what a few of the outsider funds - EchoStar, for instance - paid for advanced shares shortly before the public offering. There were definitely some deals that were worse than others (the July 2025 Tender at $212/share was EchoStar, the December 2025 Tender at $421/share was to the company’s own employees as well as some other earlier investors).
Even then, the volume of shares sold was miniscule compared to shares outstanding.
Well some of the shareholders, clearly none of the peope who had to wait for the IPO are going to make some unless they managed to sell off in the 4 days after IPO.
Beyond that, we don’t know that much about the pre-IPO costs and how low it can go for them to still make out like bandits.
Fully unironically know a few folks who did exactly that. Got in at $135 and sold on the way up to $200, because it’s insane to hold a company with a P/E of… 1000x? Something stupid like that.
We know what firms like Thiel’s Founder’s Fund and Andressen Horowitz paid for minority positions during the earlier funding rounds (Series A -J and assorted debt swaps). And we also know what a few of the outsider funds - EchoStar, for instance - paid for advanced shares shortly before the public offering. There were definitely some deals that were worse than others (the July 2025 Tender at $212/share was EchoStar, the December 2025 Tender at $421/share was to the company’s own employees as well as some other earlier investors).
Even then, the volume of shares sold was miniscule compared to shares outstanding.