So recently there was a controversy with a bunch of live streamers leaving twitch or duel streaming to Kick.Com.

However people dislike Kick saying it is less ethical then Twitch so what is the deal with that ?

  • Resplendent606@piefed.social
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    Maybe it has something to do with money. From what I understand, Kick.com pays something like 95/5 to the streamer vs. 70/30 with YouTube and 50/50 with Twitch. The founders of Kick.com have shady backgrounds and they have less moderation which attracts those streamers accused of homophobic, misogynistic, and predatory behavior.

    edit: corrected numbers

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      I think all it is. Is that the Twitch loyalist like Hasan Piker and Pokemane either like Twitch,the community and staff or more likely have exclusivity deals and don’t want to lose their viewership to Kick.

      That is fine I guess but stop trying t make it a proletarian struggle

      The founders of Kick are not really Shady. They are very out loud and proud it’s Serbian Australian Ed Craven AKA Eddie and an Iranian Bijan Tehrani. They just seem like guys I guess IDK what’s shady about them.

      As a leftist I will say that Kick does seem to be right win coded in the sense they don’t moderate as much which generally benefits the right look at 4chan,X and Kiwi Farms.

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        Dude your OP is a lie if you know all this about Kick.

        You’re clearly pushing a biased narrative that Kick isn’t hot Nazi garbage. Aren’t you embarrassed?

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          23 hours ago

          That is the worst part

          the kick people are loyal to Kick for reasons they like the revenue split or the fact it’s either there or nothing

          the twitch people are loyal to Twitch because it’s Twitch

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        My main point was it is probably about the money. Afterall, streaming is a business and a difference between what site pays versus the other can be huge.

        I then added about the shadiness, agreeing with what you wrote in the OP that “people dislike Kick saying it is less ethical.” I will expand upon that idea since you are accusing me of having an “proletarian” agenda. The “shady” part is based on the founder’s background in online gambling (stake.com), particularly crypto gambling, as ethically questionable due to potential for addiction, financial ruin, and regulatory grey areas. Also, the purpose of Kick, especially in the early days, was suspected to be a way to funnel traffic to Stake.com.

        Even more, with the shadiness, Kick’s stated goal is “creator-friendly” moderation and avoiding “cancel culture,” the effect of their looser policies has been that controversial streamers (especially those who lean right or have been associated with right-wing talking points) find a more welcoming home there. This leads to the “right-wing coded” perception.

        Streamers weigh both the financial elements and the ethical environment when choosing a platform. For many, Kick’s controversies make it more complex.