• Nima@leminal.space
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    1 day ago

    you seem to be making up worst case scenarios that end in violence breaking out. trust me when I say, most normal adults don’t care about any of that stuff and don’t think about restrooms beyond “I really need to pee.”

    I’d believe that its mostly just convenience. even to most trans individuals who need those products.

    you are making this out to be some warzone or something. “That they’re not being allowed to die solely because their existence isn’t similar enough to the rest of us to be convenient.”

    buddy we are talking about pads. nobody who matters cares. and anyone that does care will probably just grimace about it and won’t remember 5 minutes later. I’m not going to call myself “an individual who menstruates” I’m gonna just say woman because I’m allowed to refer to myself how I choose to.

    nobody is going to die dramatically because i didn’t use that exact phrase to refer to myself.

    edit: also we should probably move to DMs and not clog up the comment section.

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      1 day ago

      I keep bringing up violence because it’s not an outside possibility, not just for drama or to make my point seem stronger.

      I’m not going to call myself “an individual who menstruates” I’m gonna just say woman because I’m allowed to refer to myself how I choose to.

      Not what is being talked about. Talking about using it when relevant, so when talking about menstruation lato sensu (broadest sense), trans men need to be included in the conversation. Even if that makes it uncomfortable. If it isn’t relevant, then yeah you don’t need to use this term. That would be silly and defeat the whole point of the term. Legislation about menstruation, this term. You menstruating, use whatever you want.

      buddy we are talking about pads. nobody who matters cares.

      Bigots care bigly about a bunch of silly shit. Doesn’t change the fact that they tend to use violence (real or implied) to enforce their worldview on others. And most others won’t stop them cause they don’t want to rock the boat (or catch a stray)

      I’ve seen many, many instances where my brother needed to ask my mom or aunt to get him pads out of the restroom because he was afraid of the people around him. Because the people in that place used threats to keep him out of the restroom he was supposed to use (again, before he transitioned). What you think is a minor inconvenience I’ve seen firsthand how it can threaten the safety of those I care about. So yeah, gonna treat the big deal as a big deal

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        1 day ago

        There are some deeply held beliefs being debated here. Is the only way to demonstrate acceptance is belief in LGBTQ or non-belief in LGBTQ? Deep issues of faith on both sides.