• absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz
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    3 days ago

    Yep.

    I don’t see how the greens could go with national and not lose a big portion of their base.

    Opportunity is also the teal party now. It is occupied territory, the greens can’t really step into that space without looking a bit daft.

    Thus like act, they are welded to the bigger party for better or worse. In my view both act and green should have limited negotiating power, they are never going to cross the isle.

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      3 days ago

      You’d think that there ought to be a teal voter: conservative, both in terms of conserving economic resources and in terms of conserving our natural resources. But I guess there are not many big businesses lobbying for these types of policies, whereas the fossil fuel industry goes hard with lobbying.

      • absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz
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        3 days ago

        Yes. Me.

        And a lot of people I talk to, maybe it is my biased bubble. But there are a lot of people in the teal camp. I don’t have social media beyond Lemmy… So these are IRL people, far more than 5% in fact.

        I hope that when the vote is counted, teal voters will have had the courage to stand behind their values rather than be afraid of the “wasted vote”.

        If polling shoes a consistent above 5%; this is far less of a concern.

        • Joe :tinoflag:@mastodon.nz
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          3 days ago

          @absGeekNZ @ooo_shiny, imho Opportunity is just another way to support National, the party that made just about every single day since they took over governing nearly three years ago a bad news day - many catastrophic ones.
          The name opportunity reflects the parties wants, an opportunity to enrich themselves.
          Their policies are mostly paling in substance and accuracy to what ie
          the Green party has shown.
          In my opinion whether they reach the 5% or not it’s very much a wasted vote if you want to better what’s going on now.

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            2 days ago

            I’ve got this guy tagged as simply “munter” in my app. I don’t remember why, but they’re not doing anything to make me think I was wrong.

          • absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz
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            3 days ago

            Opportunity is being attacked from both sides.

            It is not a vote for national.

            On current polling, they will talk to labour first. There is a lot of common ground with the left, so an understanding is likely to be found.

            • Joe :tinoflag:@mastodon.nz
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              2 days ago

              @absGeekNZ , I disagree.
              I think it has been solely created to dilute the left and Luxon will happily embrace them if it gets him another three years of bulldozing this country into the ground.

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                2 days ago

                You are free to disagree, that is the benefit of living here in NZ.

                Your opinion is valid, even if I think it is misguided. I think they will get in this year and we will both see what comes of it.