• plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works
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    One side has the general internet on its side. We already know what they do.

    What other evidence is needed? Any they provide would just be called fake, but the internet always does this. I don’t believe that Lemmy users would be innocent in this singular incident, that’s just foolish thinking.

    There’s nothing that will meet your arbitrary standards here, but don’t go playing dumb, you just make the rest of Lemmy users looks bad with the rest of you.

    This is all universal “you” for anyone involved in this drama on either side.

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      We have proof the guy tried to secretly censor the entire fediverse to promote a conservative agenda. We have proof they committed cyber crimes. There is a pattern of dishonest behaviour.

      We don’t have ANY evidence of the death threats or doxxing beyond the claims of a man proven to be dishonest. You don’t have any, and try to hide the fact you don’t have any with a weak “you wouldn’t believe it”. The same way I tell my friends “you wouldn’t know her, she goes to a different school.”

      Right now, the two possibilities are that literally everyone except you has been tricked, or you have been misled by a desperate, proven liar. Take a second to consider the possibility that, maybe, you’re wrong to trust them.

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        I’m not trusting THEM lol, people are told to avoid going online due to toxicity and this exact crap. And this is why I said using them was useless… you are STILL using it lmfao. Even after trying to avoid this exact conversation….

        I trust the internet to do what it always does, there’s gonna be users that did it, even “jokingly”. That’s the sad unfortunate reality that we do live in. I wish we lived in your imaginary fantasy world, that would be great!

        I’m “trusting” that the internet is doing what it always has and always will do, and not something totally unprecedented that it’s never done before.

        Again, people are told to avoid social media because OF THIS EXACT CRAP HAPPING OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND……

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          You keep taking the word of a proven liar over people with actual evidence.

          You’re either a fool or support this guy’s actions.

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          …But you ARE trusting them. You’re taking their word that the internet is doing horrible things to him. You forget that they are ALSO on the internet, and capable of lying to discredit the consequences of their own actions. You are ALSO on the internet, and a part of the toxicity you rail against.

          Take your hands off the keyboard, put them on your lap, take a deep breath, and audibly say the words “it is possible I am wrong about this.”

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          Yes, there are lots of whiny moralists around who think being civil and avoiding difficult topics and turning the fediverse into some sort of curated PG friendly space is the best solution. Preferably with government ID checking built in.