One in five Americans (20 per cent) polled by Leger this week say they would like their state to join Canada, more than double the proportion of Canadians who said they would like their country to become the 51st state of the United States. Article content

“Only 9 per cent of Canadians believe it is likely that Canada will become the 51st U.S. state. By contrast, 20 per cent of Americans would like their state to join Canada and become a Canadian province, a proportion that is higher among respondents aged 18 to 34 (30 per cent),” reads the new Léger report.

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    The way they word the contrast between Canadians and Americans is extremely biased.“9 percent of Canadians believe they will become the 51st state”, not that they want to, just that they believe it will happen. While “30 percent of Americans would like their state to become part of Canada”. If you asked the Canadians if they want to become US state I guarantee it would be lower

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      What would have been interesting: How many Canadians would like an American state to become part of Canada?

      I wouldn’t want any of them to join my country.

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          I’m not Canadian, I’m European. I just would find it interesting to know, since I was told that Canada overall resembles more Europe than the USA.

          The political left in the U.S. often aligns more closely with the center or even the moderate right in European countries, due to America’s overall more conservative political spectrum.

          So they would get an influx of center to far-right citizens. Can’t think why one would want this.

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            The political left in the U.S. often aligns more closely with the center or even the moderate right in European countries, due to America’s overall more conservative political spectrum.

            That’s a misconception. The political parties are owned by the same billionaires, and they never allow farther left candidates to be nominated.

            The politicians themselfs are right-leaning. That doesn’t mean the people actually are. There is huge support for left-leaning policies in the United States, but the people in the U.S. have effectively no ability to get policy passed.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&t=1&v=5tu32CCA_Ig

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            Canada has universal health care. It’s not perfect, but I will say I had a bad fall last year which required an open reduction and internal fixation on my arm. It cost me nothing, and I had excellent care.

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              Meanwhile, I have shoulder pain that is keeping me from sleeping, and I had to make 3 calls to my insurance company before I found out that it doesn’t matter what Dr. I go to, they won’t pay out jack squat until I hit my 5500 dollar deductible, and even then, they’ll only pay 80%, with a maximum benefit of 6500 dollars.

              Health insurance is a scam.

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            I’ll try be polite for conversation’s sake but my thoughts are: I truly wish these USAers would fix their country rather than opine about trying to join my nation which has quite a different outlook on life and noted cultural differences and expectations for it’s citizens.

            Personally, I don’t want any of these supposedly “blue” states to join confederation honestly due to incongruent ideals and perspectives.

            They should focus on working to solve their issues instead of trying to jump ship (which feels like “kicking the can down the road” because let’s be honest, in what world would the governing “party” of the USA actually allow that to happen peacefully or without retribution).

            Sorry if this was came across curt/rude but my messaging is: fix your shit.

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              They’re not “supposedly” blue states. They ARE blue states. Their citizens voted “against” the shit show that is now the “high school council” government of the United States.

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                Colours on signs don’t mean anything when there aren’t mass protests against the rhetoric.

                I live in another separate independent nation* so frankly I find any incredulity at me and my fellow citizens rage laughable and frankly insulting.

                If these blue states are majority against this, then why are the protests having meagre showings? Why are people not mobilizing. They don’t seem to care from our perspective, or at least, they’re still comfortable as it doesn’t impact their personal lives yet so they aren’t acting. This is the impression we get.

                Why am I, as someone from another country, which is being threatened by your government which represents your citizens more responsible to try and combat the lies and apathy than the people who live there. Why should I say “yeah your democratic experiment failed, let’s bring more of that inaction and that societal decay here”?

                I get that it’s frightening for you, empathize with how your neighbours feel.

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                    Yeah no worries. It’s a tough topic amongst at least the folks I know, and I’d be lying if I said I don’t have the lowest of expectations any actual resistance from the USAers if something were to come our way.

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      If you asked the Canadians if they want to become US state I guarantee it would be lower

      Any of the polls I’ve seen put it 13-20%.