The safest speed to go is the speed of traffic. If the limit is 55 and you are driving 52 but everyone else is driving 62, you are the most dangerous person on the road.
What? No! Driving faster is not safer. What kind of logic is that? If someone does something dangerous because I drive the speed limit they are unsafe not me.
Certainly it is safer if everyone everyone drives the speed limit, lowering the speed of traffic. But that’s not realistically what happens. I’m talking about when you are around other cars that are all going over the limit. The difference in speed between vehicles is also dangerous. When you drive slower than traffic you become a hazard and bottleneck that raises the danger of everyone near you. Better to be alive than “right”.
Nowhere in the article does it say that. Your ego is more important than your own life or the life of others, that tracks with both of your comments.
the core insight remains widely accepted in traffic engineering: deviation from the average traffic speed, especially on high-speed roads, is a significant risk factor.
It doesn’t say that. You are right. What it says is that the dangers come from people overtaking and assuming that someone is faster. It has nothing to do with ego and only with adhering to the law. I don’t want a speeding ticket because someone else what’s to be faster.
Everyone who overtakes me when I am at the speed limit is an idiot in my eye. People could just follow the law. Then the average speed would be the legal speed limit.
Or we could build roads that accomodate the speed. However, the police and cities would just a major source of income by doing so. So, the alternative is to go with the flow of traffic, and be safer for it.
Cool if you want to pretend you’re better than everyone, but the study above quite literally proves you’re in the wrong, and a danger to others.
There are all kinds of things that the law says to do that isn’t optimal. Sometimes the right thing to do isn’t ideological, but realistic and practical. I agree everyone should collectively slow down, not because its lawful but because it is safer. But until they do, I will always pick the safer option over what is lawful. Lawfulness is not a barometer of ethics, its a tool of power.
Lawful. They made it dangerous, not me. What I want is everyone to be lawful. I don’t want to break the law for the faults of other people. I will not pay for other people’s disregard for the rules. I will avoid crashes in what ever way is left for me.
I remember reading a story a while back. Couple lumberjacks had a serious accident, so while one guy was bleeding out in the back seat, the driver was doing 100+ and the third guy was on the phone with the cops trying to get a police escort.
They ran into a Karen like you, who decided to make sure they went the speed limit. Guy in the back seat died as a result.
The fuck you talking about? I never said I’d actively block anyone from overtaking me and the traffic won’t flow at 100mph. So what the fuck is your point? Start turning on your brain before calling me a Karen.
You are not very good at making a logical argument, are you? You cite an example of a vehicle needing to go over 100mph for an emergency, which firstly doesn’t happen very often and secondly doesn’t fucking flow with the traffic either.
Then you called me a Karen because in your mind you made up a scenario where this would happen in my vicinity and I’d be blocking that car whichni wouldn’t do willingly but unwillingly probably do anyways even if I’d go with the flow because 100+ mph is not the normal fucking flow of traffic.
Your argument was so bad that I considered blocking you but I wanted to see if you might have an epiphany but I am losing hope. You seem to be having too much fun making up fantasy scenarios where someone dies because I drive the speed limit.
You know, and I know you know, that that’s never what is meant by saying it’s “safer to travel at the speed of traffic”. It’s tragic to be sure, but it’s not a counter argumement against obeying the law.
It is safer to travel at the speed of traffic. The guy I responded to clearly said that he would rather be a rolling roadblock following speed limits like an idiot, instead of travelling with traffic.
I mean you could just follow the limit. Just saying.
Sometimes that won’t protect you from getting a speeding ticket.
The safest speed to go is the speed of traffic. If the limit is 55 and you are driving 52 but everyone else is driving 62, you are the most dangerous person on the road.
What? No! Driving faster is not safer. What kind of logic is that? If someone does something dangerous because I drive the speed limit they are unsafe not me.
Murrican logic.
Buing a bigger car is also safer according to them, even if then it turns 99% blindspot.
Certainly it is safer if everyone everyone drives the speed limit, lowering the speed of traffic. But that’s not realistically what happens. I’m talking about when you are around other cars that are all going over the limit. The difference in speed between vehicles is also dangerous. When you drive slower than traffic you become a hazard and bottleneck that raises the danger of everyone near you. Better to be alive than “right”.
The title is clickbait, its really about difference in speed: https://seasia.co/2025/09/05/driving-slower-is-actually-more-dangerous-than-driving-fast
Challenge your assumptions.
So the article says the problem are people that won’t follow the rules. People who overtake and go way too fast. I will not enable their behavior.
Nowhere in the article does it say that. Your ego is more important than your own life or the life of others, that tracks with both of your comments.
It doesn’t say that. You are right. What it says is that the dangers come from people overtaking and assuming that someone is faster. It has nothing to do with ego and only with adhering to the law. I don’t want a speeding ticket because someone else what’s to be faster.
Everyone who overtakes me when I am at the speed limit is an idiot in my eye. People could just follow the law. Then the average speed would be the legal speed limit.
Or we could build roads that accomodate the speed. However, the police and cities would just a major source of income by doing so. So, the alternative is to go with the flow of traffic, and be safer for it.
Cool if you want to pretend you’re better than everyone, but the study above quite literally proves you’re in the wrong, and a danger to others.
There are all kinds of things that the law says to do that isn’t optimal. Sometimes the right thing to do isn’t ideological, but realistic and practical. I agree everyone should collectively slow down, not because its lawful but because it is safer. But until they do, I will always pick the safer option over what is lawful. Lawfulness is not a barometer of ethics, its a tool of power.
Would you rather be lawful, or improve everyone’s chances of surviving the trip?
Lawful. They made it dangerous, not me. What I want is everyone to be lawful. I don’t want to break the law for the faults of other people. I will not pay for other people’s disregard for the rules. I will avoid crashes in what ever way is left for me.
I remember reading a story a while back. Couple lumberjacks had a serious accident, so while one guy was bleeding out in the back seat, the driver was doing 100+ and the third guy was on the phone with the cops trying to get a police escort.
They ran into a Karen like you, who decided to make sure they went the speed limit. Guy in the back seat died as a result.
The fuck you talking about? I never said I’d actively block anyone from overtaking me and the traffic won’t flow at 100mph. So what the fuck is your point? Start turning on your brain before calling me a Karen.
No, you said you believed going the speed limit was always safer than going with the flow of traffic.
Not only are you a Karen, you’re a particularly stupid one.
You are not very good at making a logical argument, are you? You cite an example of a vehicle needing to go over 100mph for an emergency, which firstly doesn’t happen very often and secondly doesn’t fucking flow with the traffic either.
Then you called me a Karen because in your mind you made up a scenario where this would happen in my vicinity and I’d be blocking that car whichni wouldn’t do willingly but unwillingly probably do anyways even if I’d go with the flow because 100+ mph is not the normal fucking flow of traffic.
Your argument was so bad that I considered blocking you but I wanted to see if you might have an epiphany but I am losing hope. You seem to be having too much fun making up fantasy scenarios where someone dies because I drive the speed limit.
If you think driving the speed limit is safer than driving with the flow of traffic, I would consider it an honor to be blocked by an idiot like you.
Bye!
You know, and I know you know, that that’s never what is meant by saying it’s “safer to travel at the speed of traffic”. It’s tragic to be sure, but it’s not a counter argumement against obeying the law.
It is safer to travel at the speed of traffic. The guy I responded to clearly said that he would rather be a rolling roadblock following speed limits like an idiot, instead of travelling with traffic.