• louNatik@aussie.zone
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    3 days ago

    Guys idk iirc or not but I feel like census was a general overall grasp for statistics, not asking such invasive questions, am I misremembering or have we never had to put our full names and details on the census before? Maybe I’m tripping

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      We have always needed to name the people in the house that night, we have always been asked demographic questions.

      Sexual orientation hasn’t been in it for long; how you get to work likewise

      All questions matter for policy creation. You need to know how many religious or gay people there are in each region to know what services need to be provided or approved.

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          I doubt they’re making that data set, but local government might use the gay data to approve a gay club, or include more or less health information for those sexualities in places where’s they provide such

          They might use method to get to work numbers by region to see which places are doing public transit better so poor performing localities can more easily see how to improve

      • Pappabosley@lemmy.world
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        What has changed is that it use to be fully anonymous, but now the government can partially re- identify the information to refrence against their other data sets and they keep the information for 99 years instead of 25

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          For the last 25 years they have kept the data for release in 99 years. Unlike other places you can opt out of having your data stored and released

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      It was big news amongst lots of people a few years back. These things get a lot of attention amongst privacy advocates and techies and but don’t get through to the mainstream who can’t tell the difference between reasoned fears and the opinions of loony influencers/conspiracy theorists. They are too busy sharing dick picks and publishing their life history on Meta. If only we had a responsible and ethical media who would help inform the public instead of pushing sponsor messages and mining clicks.

      I believe the aim is to link data from various sources to enable more complex analysis. As such anonymized ids are likely reversible in many cases. Unfortunately voters didn’t really get an opportunity to debate and have a say on the matter and we are probably stuck with it now.

    • brisk@aussie.zone
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      I think they increased personal details at the same time that they eliminated immediate destruction 2 censuses ago. The change came alongside a promise of “anonymisation” which was roundly mocked for being not actually anonymisation (rather deidentification) and trivially reversible. IIRC they made one minor change that didn’t really fix anything and called it a day. Nobody talked about it the next census.

      • naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        2 days ago

        I am still talking about it :(

        I used to fill out the census happily because it felt like the government was reasonably balancing the risks and benefits. We have actual nazis in broad daylight now and somehow we’re supposed to trust that the data will be safely managed.

      • Pappabosley@lemmy.world
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        2 days ago

        Yeah, I hate it, because i genuinely love the premise of the census, but the data can get massively skewed if it’s not fully anonymous. Like looking at the US and thinking do you want a chance someone can verify you said you were trans.