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Gandhi70@lemmy.world to Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world · 8 hours ago

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Gandhi70@lemmy.world to Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world · 8 hours ago
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    Fun Fact: The Iranian demands include a cecation of hostilities against Palestine and Lebanon.

    The six conditions include … a permanent end to attacks against Iran and its allies in Lebanon, Palestine, Yemen and Iraq…

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/8/9/iran-issues-new-demands-as-pezeshkian-seeks-deal

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      This is because the reality in the region is that the US is assisting Israel in a war of territorial expansion that involves all of those countries. Iran knows that it’s not enough to merely convince the west to stop attacking just them, because they know that this alone does not cease Israel’s lebenstraum. If Palestine and Lebanon fall then Syria and Iraq are next, and that means doom for Iran.

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        Not very realistic with China and Russia being the military backers of Iran.

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          What’s not very realistic?

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            Iran falling to Israeli expansion. Iran and Israel are basically equals in both armaments and atrocities.

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              You are calling Israel’s genocide equivalent to Iran’s human rights violations?

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              Declining the sidequest invitation, I think that Iran would rather the conflict never have to escalate to that point.

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      Given their inaction before (and their involvement in starting it) it’s probably not a hard requirement but something they thought they’d toss in there to look good.

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        Ngl, using their political leverage to try to end two instances of genocide does look pretty good, even if it is just for self-preservation.

        https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/mar/18/israel-gaza-model-lebanon-international-reaction-sanctions

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          This is semantics, but what’s happening in Lebanon certainly includes War Crimes but it’s not comparable to what Genocide means. Let’s not water down crimes like this. If the Hezbollah are “trapped” between the rest of Lebanon and Israel then that’s the result of their own actions, no pity from me.

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            From targeting journalists and health workers to forcibly displacing over a million people, here’s how Israel is carrying out its genocidal Gaza playbook to kill, destroy, and occupy parts of Lebanon.

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              That’s great pal, but the eradication of an entire culture kind of requires them to be eradicated rather than forced to move a few miles north and live in the same state they did before. Ukraine isn’t a genocide, for example.

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                Forced migration is literally always step 1 of genocide. What?

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                The genocidal intent and tactics are clear

                Waiting until a genocide is complete before calling it such goes against the entire reason the definition exists in the first place

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                  You watering down Israel’s crimes almost plays more as apologia, tbh.

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                    Is that a joke?

                    How does a Zeteo article showing exactly which genocidal tactics Israel has been using is Gaza for years are now also being used in Lebanon considered “downplaying Israel’s crimes” in anyway. If anything, you are the one downplaying Israel’s crimes in Lebanon.

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            Fair enough. I am not sure how far Israel will go with expansion into Lebanon and I don’t know the measure of displacement and death that would constitute it as an attempted genocide, so I can’t really argue against that.

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