• kopasz7@sh.itjust.works
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    23 hours ago

    How is that a bad thing?

    I have to buy them? Every replaceable and repairable stuff is manufactured and has an impact.

    About 90% of other brands you can throw them away if the battery goes bad or they break.

    I don’t have any of those, for related reasons. The best one can do is to consume less and less often.

    Buying a USB-C-2-Jack dongle or BT headset is anything but eco-friendly. It goes straight against the whole brand if you need to buy new stuff in addition to make it work.

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      14 hours ago

      What about people who already have a BT headset, or people who are looking to buy their first headset and don’t own one yet? You just straight up assume everyone still had a headset with wires lying around and that they somehow never break.

      Having to buy something makes it bad isn’t really an argument. The very post you are making right now is made from a devide that has been manufactured at some point in time. If you start reasoning like that its better to start living in the woods with no possessions at all.

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        7 hours ago

        Before BT headsets even existed, all of them were wired and none of them required lithium batteries or chips inside.

        Having to buy something makes it bad isn’t really an argument.

        It costs resources to produce. It is one of the main missions of FP to reduce this by having to not by a new device if your current one breaks. If buying a new one wasn’t a problem, why are they trying to make it repairable?

        They are easily repairable and you don’t have to throw them away if the battery goes bad (just replace it).

        You get it.

        If you start reasoning like that its better to start living in the woods with no possessions at all.

        Taking my argument to the extreme naturally makes it absurd. But living in the woods isn’t my point.

        If you look at FP’s yearly financial statements, you can see how they are struggling. In 2021 and 2022 they were roughly at a breakeven point, turning basically no profit, in 2023 their operating loss was 37% of their net turnover.

        See previous comment:

        I’m saying it is very hypocritical and goes against their brand. If they simply came out and said: Look guys making phones sustainably cost too much, we need to sell higher margin items like dongles, BT earbuds and cases to have enough cashflow to continue manufacturing and R&D.

        Ok, fair enough. I would say.

        But trying to justify and greenwashing the whole ordeal is insulting. The tactic is straight out of Apple’s “Think different” book. Paying more for reduced functionality. Only for them to sell you more accessories for even more money.