• Wren@lemmy.today
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    2 months ago

    Your comment is whataboutism and a deflection. Saying something isn’t what it is doesn’t make it any less is.

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      2 months ago

      This isn’t whataboutism. Someone asked why people still use Piefed, and for a fair number of people, that is the reason. I personally only noticed the Piefed controversies bubbling up recently. The problems with the Lemmy devs have been known for years (at least to me). And some people may see what Piefed devs do as the lesser evil, whether you agree with it or not.

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        2 months ago

        It’s definitely whataboutism.

        I asked why people use piefed despite the drama, Eldritch’s argument was that lemmy devs are bad, and hey, aren’t all developers kinda bad?

        That’s like if I asked why some people like shit on their chest and they said “some of us don’t like getting pissed on.”

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            2 months ago

            Preference. I tried piefed and didn’t like it. I like lemmy. Lemmy’s devs are more objective when it comes to their platform than Rimu is. The way the devs run their home instance doesn’t bother me too much. There is no equivalent to .today, in terms of no blocked instances and a viewable modlog, on piefed.

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          2 months ago

          Your assessment of the Piefed’s Devs’ actions being worse than those by the Lemmy devs is a subjective one. That’s precisely the point: one could argue that what Lemmy devs do is worse than what Piefed’s devs do. And to be fair, not everyone knows about every alternative (although I will use the moment to shoutout Mbin, which, as far as I know, hasn’t had any such issues - at least not yet).

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            2 months ago

            Your assessment of the Piefed’s Devs’ actions being worse than those by the Lemmy devs is a subjective one.

            I never assessed such a thing.

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              2 months ago

              Comparing one thing to shit and the other to piss is indirectly an assessment as to which is worse. I may be going out on a limb here but I’m pretty sure the vast majority of people (without a scat fetish) find shit worse than piss.

              Whataboutism would be using the problems with the Lemmy devs to distract from or justify what the Piefed devs do. If someone says Piefed devs are doing A but Lemmy devs are doing B which I find is worse, so I would rather go with Piefed, that’s not whataboutism, that’s chosing the lesser of two evils.

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      2 months ago

      No my comment was strictly with regards to you calling out users of a particular software. When it comes to rimu. 100% ptb unfortunately. I can’t support the authors of Lemmy or piefed. But people are free to use whichever tools they choose in this instance. But good luck constructing that straw man.

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        2 months ago

        This has got to be the worst use of “straw man” I have seen on lemmy so far. And I’ve seen some bad ones.

        Just a tip, you can’t call every argument you don’t like a straw man. It has a meaning.