We are constantly fed a version of AI that looks, sounds and acts suspiciously like us. It speaks in polished sentences, mimics emotions, expresses curiosity, claims to feel compassion, even dabbles in what it calls creativity.

But what we call AI today is nothing more than a statistical machine: a digital parrot regurgitating patterns mined from oceans of human data (the situation hasn’t changed much since it was discussed here five years ago). When it writes an answer to a question, it literally just guesses which letter and word will come next in a sequence – based on the data it’s been trained on.

This means AI has no understanding. No consciousness. No knowledge in any real, human sense. Just pure probability-driven, engineered brilliance — nothing more, and nothing less.

So why is a real “thinking” AI likely impossible? Because it’s bodiless. It has no senses, no flesh, no nerves, no pain, no pleasure. It doesn’t hunger, desire or fear. And because there is no cognition — not a shred — there’s a fundamental gap between the data it consumes (data born out of human feelings and experience) and what it can do with them.

Philosopher David Chalmers calls the mysterious mechanism underlying the relationship between our physical body and consciousness the “hard problem of consciousness”. Eminent scientists have recently hypothesised that consciousness actually emerges from the integration of internal, mental states with sensory representations (such as changes in heart rate, sweating and much more).

Given the paramount importance of the human senses and emotion for consciousness to “happen”, there is a profound and probably irreconcilable disconnect between general AI, the machine, and consciousness, a human phenomenon.

https://archive.ph/Fapar

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      23 hours ago

      AI is not actual intelligence. However, it can produce results better than a significant number of professionally employed people…

      I am reminded of when word processors came out and “administrative assistant” dwindled as a role in mid-level professional organizations, most people - even increasingly medical doctors these days - do their own typing. The whole “typing pool” concept has pretty well dried up.

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        However, there is a huge energy cost for that speed to process statistically the information to mimic intelligence. The human brain is consuming much less energy. Also, AI will be fine with well defined task where innovation isn’t a requirement. As it is today, AI is incapable to innovate.

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          The human brain is consuming much less energy

          Yes, but when you fully load the human brain’s energy costs with 20 years of schooling, 20 years of “retirement” and old-age care, vacation, sleep, personal time, housing, transportation, etc. etc. - it adds up.

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          17 hours ago

          much less? I’m pretty sure our brains need food and food requires lots of other stuff that need transportation or energy themselves to produce.

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            Your brain is running on sugar. Do you take into account the energy spent in coal mining, oil fields exploration, refinery, transportation, electricity transmission loss when computing the amount of energy required to build and run AI? Do you take into account all the energy consumption for the knowledge production in first place to train your model? Running the brain alone is much less energy intensive than running an AI model. And the brain can create actual new content/knowledge. There is nothing like the brain. AI excel at processing large amount of data, which the brain is not made for.

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            Customarily, when doing these kind of calculations we ignore stuff which keep us alive because these things are needed regardless of economic contributions, since you know people are people and not tools.

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              people are people and not tools

              But this comparison is weighing people as tools vs alternative tools.

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            And we “need” none of that to live. We just choose to use it.

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      You know, and I think it’s actually the opposite. Anyone pretending their brain is doing more than pattern recognition and AI can therefore not be “intelligence” is a fucking idiot.

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        No your failing the Eliza test and it is very easy for people to fall for it.

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        I think there’s a strong strain of essentialist human chauvinism.

        But it’s more kinds of thing than LLM’s are doing. Except in the case of llmbros fascists and other opt-outs.