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      OP uncritically defends china/russia/other communistic-ish autocracies. Their point isn’t some nuanced argument on china, it is literally “US/West Bad” — like it’s almost funny how OP is actually doing what the meme shows just in reverse.

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        The US is bad, comically so. We’ve got military bases on every continent, we’ve been at war constantly for our entire 2+ century existence, we’ve got the largest prison population on earth and explicit legal allowance for prison slave labor, we’re the only country ever to use nukes and we used them both on fucking civilians, I could go on but I’ve already made my point and it’s probably wasted on you anyway.

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          Does that mean everyone should just believe every piece of “China is the greatest thing ever and nothing bad has or ever will happen here” as gospel truth?

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            No, that would be stupid, but not half as stupid as believing anything the US has to say about an enemy

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            The point OP and others that point out the tremendous propaganda campaign against the PRC are making isn’t that the PRC is a perfect wonderland, nor a horrible hellscape like the US State Department would have you believe, but a good country that is steadily and constantly improving. You’re deliberately twisting OP’s point into absurdity in order to feign some sort of coherence, but anyone can see right through you.

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    • China bad

    • Islam bad and dumb

    • Communism and socialism bad

    • Capitalism good (and make sure you know NOTHING regarding economic theories!)

    • Women dumb

    • Non-Europeans (ethnically, and even then the Germanic tribes are at the top of the chain [Anglo-Saxons included, evidently]) bad and/or dumb

    • Gays bad

    • Christianity good (only when antithetical to the message of Jesus)

    • (white) America good

    • Israel good

    Have I captured the essence of the ‘classic’ ignorant and angry white American? Honestly, it fits pretty well for FN and EDL dudes in France and the UK, respectively…

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      this just captures the angry white man in not just the US, but also KKKommonwealth and Europe.

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        Losurdo really drives home that white/western supremacy has been a global project that’s gone through many phases, not just limited to one country.

        The word untermensch for example, comes from lothrop stoddard, a US white supremacist and eugenicist who greatly inspired the nazis. They also took lebensraum from manifest destiny, and openly wanted to emulate what the US did to its native population, in eastern europe.

        After the nazis broke the rules and attacked westward and started western infighting by attacking britain and france, then lost in ww2, the US took up the mantle of the west’s leading country who would keep the non-white populations of the world in check, by bombing anyone who dared to challenge colonialism or neo-colonialism, or impede their control of resources and prevent the spice from flowing.

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          From the “civilizing missions” of the British, French and the Dutch to the theft, plundering, pillaging and desecration of indigenous lands and its people in the “New World”, with all of it mirrored today only this time with different targets, it’s clear as fuck that a majority of today’s US’ white population do not stray far from their European colonialist ancestors and don’t want to…

          Maybe I’m doomposting but I genuinely don’t know how this vicious cycle of white supremacist entities scratching each other’s backs and evolving in the process of doing so could end…

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            I personally don’t think there’s much hope for the imperial core countries at least, but they’re a minority of the world’s population. The rest of the world doesn’t want a leading country, they want trade on an equal basis, and a multi-polar world with international bodies that can resolve disputes impartially. Capitalism isn’t even as sustainable as feudalism, and will likely have a much shorter lifespan. Enriching a few at the expense of the many isn’t sustainable in the long-term, because the many will fight back and eventually win, as they have done and will continue to do.

            Empires generally have a long, whiny decline into obsolescence… I think ancient Rome (after all the civil wars, imperial overextension, instability, famines, civil unrest) it eventually emptied out to ~1% of its peak population before it was conquered. If it isn’t politically stable, doesn’t inspire people, and no one’s willing to fight for it, it can’t last.