The majority of chinese apps require identity verification (either with a passport or just a chinese phone number). Partly to keep out foreigners, but more to make it so people don’t use anonymity online to do crimes and threaten people. Your online identity is tied to your real life identity for authorities, even if not always for other users.
Whether or not you agree with that, it’s just…standard practice already in China.
I disagree, it is a necessary step for any kind of larger functional society with internet. Internet anonymity is literally how we get shit like QAnon, which literally runs our government now.
That doesn’t mean the U.S. wouldn’t use such powers entirely for evil, so it’s a toss-up here in the West, but I doubt that a larger functional society can work with internet anonymity being the norm.
I am on hexbear because r/Chapo got killed and the spinoff discord sucked.
For one, if you actively involved in any kind of organizing, or have ever done any level of public posting, you should assume you are already on a watchlist to some degree. I assume I am already on one for being active in r/Chapo all those years ago, plus previous protests. For two, unless you are in the UK and have active verbal support for Palestine, pretty much everything said here is defensibly legal. And for three, nobody here actually threatens the stability of any government, it is unlikely we are targeted for death. They are going to spend their time going after much bigger fish.
There is no such thing as real internet anonymity, it is just a matter of how hard someone wants to dig. I assume that everything I say online can and could be found and linked to me. Governments have those resources and knowledge at their disposal, regular ass people do not, and it is regular ass people who would be the primary beneficiary of this process, because they are the ones who are most often targeted in scams and manipulation.
The majority of chinese apps require identity verification (either with a passport or just a chinese phone number). Partly to keep out foreigners, but more to make it so people don’t use anonymity online to do crimes and threaten people. Your online identity is tied to your real life identity for authorities, even if not always for other users.
Whether or not you agree with that, it’s just…standard practice already in China.
Stupid excuse for Surveillance. Same system in India as well.
I disagree, it is a necessary step for any kind of larger functional society with internet. Internet anonymity is literally how we get shit like QAnon, which literally runs our government now.
That doesn’t mean the U.S. wouldn’t use such powers entirely for evil, so it’s a toss-up here in the West, but I doubt that a larger functional society can work with internet anonymity being the norm.
We’re on hexbear because it’s anonymous otherwise we would probably be on a watchlist if not dead.
I am on hexbear because r/Chapo got killed and the spinoff discord sucked.
For one, if you actively involved in any kind of organizing, or have ever done any level of public posting, you should assume you are already on a watchlist to some degree. I assume I am already on one for being active in r/Chapo all those years ago, plus previous protests. For two, unless you are in the UK and have active verbal support for Palestine, pretty much everything said here is defensibly legal. And for three, nobody here actually threatens the stability of any government, it is unlikely we are targeted for death. They are going to spend their time going after much bigger fish.
There is no such thing as real internet anonymity, it is just a matter of how hard someone wants to dig. I assume that everything I say online can and could be found and linked to me. Governments have those resources and knowledge at their disposal, regular ass people do not, and it is regular ass people who would be the primary beneficiary of this process, because they are the ones who are most often targeted in scams and manipulation.