Well… shit.

At least they confirmed they’re working on enabling EAC correctly… at some point.

  • ayyy@sh.itjust.works
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    5 hours ago

    Are all public discord servers just a vomiting mess of stupid unrelated reactions like that?

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    Sounds like he thought he was giving a “no” as an answer, but turns out that Proton actually means Linux support now.

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    If that’s a developer, I assume what happened is that they enabled Proton and gave it a quick test to see if it worked. It seemed to work so they made the original post.

    Then a manager saw the post and said that they don’t actually have CI and QA set up for it, so they can’t list it as officially supported. Which… Fair, I guess.

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      Battlefield + Counter-Strike.

      Battlefield for scale and gameplay, Counter-Strike (like, 1.6) for paying for everything on your loadout, including guns, attachments, grenades, ammunition, other utility, and whatever vehicular stuff goes into this, because of the Battlefield aspect.

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      Another Battlefield clone.

      EDIT: sighs OK, Fine. It is another “hey, look at me! I’m better than Battlefield!” milsim. There’s like a dozen of them and they all drain all your time and soul eventually. Their average lifespans is counted in decades but their peak players are always in the few hundreds except for a random period of a few months when the entire scene obsess with one single game. Then they die again.

      Gotta admit, “not a battle royale and not a extraction shooter” are actual sale points though.

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        Apart from “guns go pew pew” it’s literally nothing like Battlefield.

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          That’s dumb. It shares a lot of traits with Battlefield. It’s large scale, arcadey vehicles (I assume), arcadey run-and-gun gameplay it seems, and many other things, like the style (not realism, but like an enhanced over-the-top realism).

          Sure, it isn’t a clone of Battlefield, I agree, but it’s fairly similar to Battlefield. It’s clearly targeting the same players. The biggest difference, in my opinion, is that it isn’t EA. I don’t know much about this studio, but they can’t be as bad as EA.

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            Look at any clip of someone flying a helicopter in Wardogs and you’ll see a something that’s quite far from arcade. Same goes for the basic shooting. It also features 3 teams in a king-of-the-hill mode, which is very much not a Battlefield mode. It does not feature auto-regenerating health and so on. If you watch gameplay you’ll see way more comparisons to ARMA Reforger than Battlefield, and many are downright warning that Battlefield players would probably not enjoy this, as the pace is much, much slower (it takes roughly 3 minutes driving from spawn until you reach the action). Then there is the very fundamental economy system, which once again has no equivalent in Battlefield but is instead much closer to Gray Zone Warfare, or the building system that also has no parallel in Battlefield.

            Battlefield is all about kills (and the tickets that drain when you kill an enemy) whereas a player with 0 kills and 25 deaths can absolutely be the MVP in Wardogs because they transported other players or resources, built FOBs or did many other things that actually doesn’t involve shooting. In Battlefield this type of player would just be someone you’d hope was on the other team.

            So no, it’s not dumb to make distinctions between Wardogs and Battlefield, because diving deeper than a cursory glance you’ll see they are completely different games for different audiences with little overlap.

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              Just because there are differences doesn’t mean there aren’t similarities. Another comment said it’s closer to Squad, which sounded like a contradiction but proves the point. Squad evolved off of Battlefield. It has many similarities, even though it is a very different game, and most Battlefield players would hate it.

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            I would say it’s closer to Squad with a managed economy system on top of it. BF has no economy management. Or FoB building, or logistics trucks running resources to build FoBs.

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              Sure, it’s got that aspect, though if you consider it close to Squad, a relatively slow-paced mil-sim, which prioritizes teamwork and not individual play, and not Battlefield, then you’re crazy. Squad has Battlefield DNA in it, so if it’s like Squad then it’s also like Battlefield. It’s far closer to BF though, from what I’ve seen, in my opinion, and I’m an avid Squad player.

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                That’s marketing making you see that, but yeah Squad did spawn of BF, but it’s not as fast paced as battlefield. I watched an hour stream yesterday, it’s got the really slow bits of Squad in its DNA.

                I got an invite for the closed beta that starts today. I’ll report back on which it’s closer to.

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    They don’t have to support linux, just don’t block us via anti cheat. Their response isn’t clear whether or not we can play it.

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      I can confirm EAC boots up and the main menu (or rather the “Playtest not live yet” thingy) is visible, so I’m positive they enabled Linux EAC. However it sounds like they don’t have QA set up for Proton-on-Linux yet so they simply do not know if it will work out.

      So… it’s not supported, but might just work good enough.

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        So it works but they don’t have a process in place to ensure it works. That doesn’t meet their standard for official support and so they retracted their claim that they support Linux via Proton. But they also made clear that they plan on getting that process in place.

        That’s honestly the best possible position.

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        Yeah same. I received an invite (didn’t preorder) for the closed beta and booted it up earlier just fine before I realized it doesn’t actually start until tomorrow. Oh well, still definitely curious for a non-EA/Activision alternative.

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        Good to know. I was expecting it to not work with their AC yet. Honestly, I don’t care that much if it is officially supported, as long as it runs. I’d like official support, but most games don’t officially support Linux and they work fine.

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          It’s really important to make sure it keeps running though. Without them having a proper QA pipelime for Proton the game might just stop working at any time after the tibiest update. Or even worse, EAC perma-bans you from a game you paid for. And them not dealing with Linux or Proton, having no clue how to differentiate between translation layer and malicious interception, refusing to unban. Wouldn’t be the first time this happened, so official support for competitive games is pretty much mandatory.

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    Lol does this mean I saw a bunch of news articles pop up because of a discord post? Nice… Hope they appreciate the PR and dedicate some resources now that they’ve seen how responsive the community is

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    Enabling EAC is a simple checkbox you click in the dashboard when you build the executable afaik. How can this be so hard?

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      Official support is a higher bar than “we did the bare minimum to make sure it’s theoretically possible for Proton to run it.” They’re probably just doing a little testing to make sure everything works decently before endorsing their product on Linux.

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      You have an uncomfortably low bar for success.

      See this comment from OP. Seems like EAC is enabled, they just don’t have specific support for making sure it actually works on Linux.

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    Well if they beta this weekend rolls around and it doesn’t work I’ll refund and wait for the official it is supported to buy it. People were playing it on Linux before though so I’m hoping it still works.