• amemorablename@lemmygrad.ml
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    28 days ago

    The way I understand it, the pipeline concept means something like: if one figure says mild stuff that is more palatable to class-unconscious people but doesn’t speak against people who are more openly communist, or at least is willing to hear them out, that means the listener might go “well this person saying the mild stuff is interesting, but I kinda like what that other person has to say too.” And then start listening to the second person more. And this may gradually move them further left.

    This becomes capture rather than pipeline though if the first person is actively speaking against, and trying to undermine, the second person. I honestly don’t know which one Hasan fits more. I’ve heard things in the past that make me think he’s more pipeline than capture by the above definition, but either way, this doesn’t mean we’re supposed to be satisfied with what he’s saying, as communists. We still have to move people further left than what he’s doing.

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      28 days ago

      Counterpoint if he was either he would not make “tankies” look “delusional” and portray anything besides voooting for DSA as hopeless.

      Thats not helping people move further left, thats recruiting for his cause. Similar to how “anti-DEI” nazis criticizing the democrats or even capitalism magically doesn’t create a bunch of new leftists.