• PeroBasta@lemmy.world
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    7 hours ago

    Yeah, no sea here and neither super cold. Try to check the cost of a charging station in Italy.

    Here you either have solar or you can charge for free at work, because the price of charging around is very expensive (not gas expensive but still)

    Where I live, from January to today, my average gas price is 1,80 € per liter btw, now the price per liter is touching 2€

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      4 hours ago

      OK I thought gas prices in Italy were higher than here, I wish we could have cars that could last 18 years here, without having to spend 1000 Euro every second year on rust protection.

      Regarding charging prices, I have 2 neighbors who pay 100 Euro per month, and then they can charge all they want.
      One of them drive 300 km every workday of the month. that’s 6000 km!! So that’s less than 0,02 Euro per km. in charging cost. 🤣
      He even got his home charger cheap because of that agreement, and the charge on the home charger is included in the 100 Euro.
      Needless to say his savings compared to an ICE car are insane. If I remember correctly, he said he used 1000+ Euro on gas when he drove an ICE car.
      Of course he also drives an expensive BMW, because there are tax deductions for having long transport to work. 😋

      On the other hand he spends 3 hours per day driving to work.
      The other neighbor has about half that, but it’s still an insanely good deal. The savings in gas are enough to finance all costs of the car.

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        2 hours ago

        I just checked the portal for electricity offers here, it’s something I do every year to compare with what I have. I selected 2800kWh as annual consumption with a contract power of 4.5kW The starting price of the best offer today is 900€/y

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          2 hours ago

          That’s insane, I have no idea what contract power of 4,5 kW is, but 2800/900 is 3.11 Euro per kWh.
          That’s absolutely insane! Here a kWh cost 0,49 Euro at a 400 KWh charging station!
          Just driving in to charge without any subscription.
          But you must have made some sort of mistake, there is no way a kWh can cost that much.

          Also it sounds like it’s electricity for your house and not for charging cars, since you write you check every year and you don’t have an electric car?

          The example I gave is only for charging cars. So many choose it for convenience, but don’t drive nearly as much.
          But when you drive a lot, it’s an insanely good deal.

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            43 minutes ago

            Yeah that’s a house contract

            4.5kW is the max drawing power, after that it jumps and cuts it.

            In Italy the only way to charge for cheap is using solar from your house

            I checked out of curiosity and the best contract if you consume a lot is 0.38€/kWh for the first 320kWH (and then you get a shitty deal)

            Average goes for 0.60€/kWh but the included quantity gets lower.

            Normally it goes for 0.7-0.8 for consumption (not flat contracts)

            Often those are not very fast charging, and if you let your car connected for more than 1h or 2h (depends) you get overcharged per minute of occupancy