• Baguette@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      Kei trucks are japan origin work trucks that are basically if you shrank a semi truck cab to be a pickup truck

      You might spot a few for tasks like delivery to local grocery stores

      Imo way more respectable than pickup trucks, those went from working trucks to manoverse fake masculinity

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        Kei trucks are so much fun - wish I had one! Sure they don’t have enough power to pull a hat off your head, but they’re a blast to drive around.

        On a side note, it’s pretty entertaining trying to drive one in full chem gear 😄

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        There’s a guy on Youtube who’s designing an open source kei truck right now. He’s planning on selling kits once the design work is done

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        Yes, nothing more manly than driving around town in a truck half the size of anything on the road with zero crumple zones. If you get into an accident you’ll certainly die like a man.

        I’ll just keep my feminized large truck with a heavy frame, crumple zones, air bags and backup sensors. I’m sure I can fit the wreckage of that Kei truck in the bed of my fem. truck and drop it off at the scrap yard if you ever get into a accident and need someone to dispose of it.

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            Repeating sexist remarks… check Implying that a idea or statement isn’t manly and/or is feminine in a degrading manner… check

            What other sexist degrading statements do you have rattling around over there? I’d expect it’s all you have because you haven’t spoken any facts yet.

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          The problem with these fucking god awful abominations driving the road is their ever increasing mass and dimensions. Every year, companies somehow inflate more and more into personal vehicle sizes, and the fragile, tiny dick men buy these things to shore up their desperate and delicate egos. The trend of larger vehicles driving around incentivized a “safety” (more like a capitalism) war, wherein other vehicles had to increase size so that they didn’t turn into a new form of powder during an accident. Now, a lot of people buy giant vehicles, as well as little old grandma getting two bags of groceries in a 6000lb Chevy Suburban behemoth. They keep adding sensors and cameras, because it’s borderline impossible to see without them. Do you see the problem here?

          I say capitalism war because the total profit per vehicle is higher because the selling price is significantly higher. A company makes more absolute profit on a $60,000 mega SUV than a $25,000 sedan, even if the margin percentage is comparable.

          You can continue living in your “feminized” truck and justifying dangerous and increasingly fortified vehicles, or you can come down to earth and stop equating people’s choice to make the road actually safer by bucking the trend of economies of scale with “dying like a man”. More of these kei trucks on the road means the road is safer. It means your crumplezone on wheels is just for looks and not safety anymore. The pathway for safer roads is not to knuckle down and continue indulging in these ludicrously sized vehicles.

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            Cool story, I highly encourage you to stick to your convictions and drive around town and the highway in a Kei truck.

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              Gotta know your surroundings, yo. A lot of folks here live in densely populated urban areas where massive jacked up trucks are less for utility and more for status.

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              Seems like you have a it’s-all-about-me complex. “I drive around slowly in my truck and be calm, why can’t you?1!”

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                Well there seem to be a lot of people in this sub that fetishized Kei trucks. If you make a comment about how unsafe they are… well just look at the rabid sexist attacks, unhinged aggressive comments. I mean you reacted by flying off and writing a three paragraph essay on the subject.

                So yeah you do you.

                I’ll continue enjoying rolling around in my large safe comfortable truck.

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                  My reaction comes from studies done on vehicle safety and the economics behind them. You reacted by saying “I feel safer” and getting all emotional because you’re trying to justify your purchase. And everyone else is unhinged. Right.

                  Also, your reaction of “cool story” disqualifies you from any actual meaningful participation in this. Truth is, larger vehicles means more deaths and accidents. I provided comments you can easily verify with countless studies but you’re not here for that.

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                    Well you sound like you have all your facts in a row instead of the dribble you spouted earlier. Can you cite a study where a modern 7000lb truck gets into an accident with a modern 2500lb car. I’d love to hear what a learned individual like yourself has researched!

                    Or are you just going to provide “comments” again?

                    Here I’ll start:

                    https://share.google/aimode/qeS3O27PW3ZstlGh4

                    When analyzing a collision between a modern sedan and a modern light truck or SUV, extensive safety data from organizations like the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS) and the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) reveals a complex dynamic defined by physical scale, structural alignment, and advanced safety technology. [1, 2]

                    While modern engineering has made multi-vehicle crashes more survivable than they were decades ago, significant disparities still exist when these two vehicle classes clash. [2]


                    1. The Physics Advantage (Mass and Kinetic Energy)

                    In a multi-vehicle crash, the laws of physics heavily favor the heavier vehicle. [3]

                    • The Weight Disparity: A typical modern mid-size sedan weighs between 3,100 to 3,600 lbs, whereas a modern full-size pickup truck or large SUV routinely tips the scales at 5,000 to 6,500 lbs.
                    • Energy Distribution: In a collision, the lighter sedan experiences a much higher change in velocity (Delta-V). The truck’s massive inertia effectively “pushes” the sedan backward or sideways, transferring significantly higher G-forces to the occupants inside the sedan. [4, 5]

                    2. Structural Compatibility (The Override Problem)

                    Historically, the greatest danger in a sedan-versus-truck crash was “geometrical incompatibility”—meaning the truck’s high bumper would ride up over the sedan’s hood, bypassing the sedan’s crumple zones and crushing the passenger cabin directly. [2, 6]

                    • Modern Improvements: Today, major manufacturers adhere to voluntary structural compatibility guidelines. Modern trucks are designed with lowered primary energy-absorbing structures (or secondary lower blocker bars) behind their bumpers to ensure they align directly with a sedan’s front-end crumple zones. [2]
                    • The Remaining Threat: Despite these lower bars, if a modern truck is modified (e.g., aftermarket lift kits) or if the crash occurs at an extreme angle, the risk of the truck overriding the sedan’s hood remains high, severely compromising the sedan’s safety cage. [6]

                    3. Collision Type Outcomes

                    Real-world crash studies show vastly different survival rates depending on where the sedan is struck: [7]

                    Collision Type Impact on Sedan Occupants Impact on Truck Occupants
                    Head-On Impact High Risk. The sedan’s crumple zone will absorb maximum energy, but the massive force of the truck can still result in a higher risk of occupant injury or death. Low-to-Medium Risk. The truck’s long front crumple zone and mass shield its occupants from severe forces.
                    Side-Impact (T-Bone) Critical Risk. If a truck T-bones a sedan, the truck’s tall front end strikes at the occupant’s head and chest level, challenging the sedan’s side airbags and B-pillars. Very Low Risk. The truck driver sits high above the primary point of impact.
                    Rollover Extremely Rare. The sedan’s low center of gravity keeps it firmly planted. Higher Risk. If the collision forces the truck into a sharp, sudden swerve, its high center of gravity makes it more susceptible to rolling over.

                    4. The Role of Modern Safety Tech

                    Modern safety features have altered the baseline of these crashes:

                    • Active Crash Avoidance: Advanced Driver Assistance Systems (ADAS)—such as Autonomous Emergency Braking (AEB) and Forward Collision Warning—frequently mitigate the severity of these crashes by slowing the vehicles down right before the impact occurs, even if the crash isn’t fully avoided.
                    • Passive Cabin Defenses: Modern sedans utilize ultra-high-strength steel in the roof pillars and standard side-curtain airbags, which have reduced sedan driver fatalities by nearly 50% in side-impact crashes compared to older models. [2]

                    Are you researching this for a legal or insurance case, looking into vehicle crash-test ratings for a new purchase, or exploring mechanical engineering concepts?

                    [1] https://www.nhtsa.gov/

                    [2] https://www.youtube.com/

                    [3] https://safecarcompare.com/

                    [4] https://www.youtube.com/

                    [5] https://www.choosecharlie.com/

                    [6] https://www.nsc.org/

                    [7] https://curtislegalgroup.com/

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          Yeah, I think kei trucks look cool as hell but. The driver is sitting right above the motor and fuel tank. They’re fundamentally not safe in crashes. That’s probably okay because they’re also very slow. No one talks about this because it’s not fun.

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          How many things are you planning to run into? I don’t need a tank to do my job, this truck has airbags, it passes all the crash tests, and it has sensors for tire pressure and traction. That’s good enough for me.

          Is your truck bulletproof? Are you sure you don’t need a pope mobile to get to work?

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            I’m not sure what kind of traffic you’re driving through where you envision driving into things or needing bullet proof cars. Perhaps you should calm down when driving or find new areas to drive in?

            I just drive around my town in the comfort and security of my truck.

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          Sure, but Japanese drivers are far more disciplined, resulting in fewer traffic fatalities, than the dolts on the US roads who drive like they received their driver’s license out of damn cereal box. By the way, SUV’s and pick-up trucks have less stringent crash standards than passenger cars.

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            I’m fine with Mexica exporting it only to countries with disciplined drivers, it would still be leagues better than SUVs (although those countries don’t have Kei trucks banned, usually)

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            Sounds like you have decided to passive aggressively agree that Kei cars are dangerously unsafe on American roads.