• EmmiLime@lemmy.ml
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    18 hours ago

    The same reason we censor bigotry. No matter how many convincing arguments are made against it, people will still let their bias favour the bigot. There’s a reason platforming bigots and fascists is a negative thing. This also applies to anti-science too like anti-vax and anti covid-protection. And this certainly applies to chauvinistic and imperialist talking points that you are defending.

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      We’re years into this. No one takes this kind of terminally online shit seriously: because it only exists to serve one particular nation.

      Its entirely inconsistent and always has been. And no amount of brigading, editorial moderation, or any thing else will change that.

      Its something you’ve ended up on the wrong side of, and everyone with eyes can see that. It doesn’t matter what it sounds like in the ever smaller echo chamber.

      If you really believed you were right, you wouldn’t need to hide behind the same veil that liberals and fascists excuse their actions with.

      • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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        Yeah, you’re right about that, no matter how much water libs carry for fascists, anybody who’s not guzzling propaganda out of the firehose can see what Ukraine really is at this point. Even the Poles are now starting to realize it.

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          This kind of editorial moderation is what libs and fascists do when they know their arguments can’t stand up to critiques. The silence dissent, because if they didn’t, it would be clear how in the wrong they are.

          Same shit. Same mindset. Same goals. Same outcomes.

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            This kind of editorial moderation is what libs and fascists do

            This is the kind of shit that equates one thing with another, horrible thing. Nazis say all the time that censoring them just makes one bad as them. It’s all just to protect horrible people from any pushback, it puts fascist ideologies on the same level as others.

            Seriously, respecting people saying fascist shit only legitimizes them, it’s the same as platforming Nazis.

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            7 hours ago

            The “marketplace of ideas” is a liberal value. Marxists tend to understand that correct ideas do not actually get accepted simply through exposure, people have to want to believe it for it to be accepted, which is largely driven by class interests and material conditions. In that sense, censoring harmful ideas is generally understood to be preferable to letting harmful ideas run freely.

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            7 hours ago

            What part of I’m not a mod of this community are you still struggling to understand?

            As a side note, Communists have never shied away from the need to censor harmful ideas, so there is no contradiction in us banning fascist views here. It’s the liberals who purport to champion their market place of ideas who have to do mental gymnastics to justify censorship they call authoritarian when others do it.

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            This is just seeing liberals and fascists use state power to entrench their ideology and concluding that doing that for any reason or ideology at all is inherently liberal/fascist.