cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/27808013
February 28, 2025
"On February 7, about a dozen masked men, some of them carrying AR-15 semi-automatic rifles, drove a U-Haul truck to a freeway overpass at Lincoln Heights’ edge. The men, dressed in black, shouted racist slurs and waived black flags with red swastikas on them. Enraged Lincoln Heights residents soon approached to counter protest. Local police who converged on the scene from the nearby town of #Evandale, across the highway, appeared cordial toward some of the white supremacists. As the crowd of Lincoln Heights residents swelled, the ultra rightists got back on their truck and drove off. Counter protesters burned the Nazi flags left behind. "
100% agree. Getting shot with rock salt is no fun, though, and the main objections of home defense is to make people want to leave. Birdshot or not, it’s the firing of the shotgun - in an enclosed space - that’s likely to dissuade home invaders.
You’re again right about buckshot, and slugs are definitely lethal and will penetrate like a rifle. Again, you’re right about the range - although, you can get rifled shotguns which help with range, but then you don’t want to be using plain shot with them, and sabot isn’t cheap.
We’re saying the same thing about shotguns: good for home defense, not so good for insurgency because of the range thing. OTOH, if you live in a city, and it’s all urban warfare… a shotgun is still a versatile choice.
To add a point to your safety comment: most people who shoot themselves or their friends or family don’t mean to. Excepting suicides attempts, of course, and every one of those accidental discharges thought that knew what they were doing with the gun.
Oh yea, it was mostly an agreement and add on.\
I’ve not had to do it, but personally IMO, if you have to fire a gun due to self defense, I’m not a fan of less than lethal rounds. If things have gotten to “I need to fire a gun” it’s buckshot where I’m at. But you say firing a shotgun in enclosed space will dissuade home invaders…
I think just the racking of a shotgun will do that. There are few sounds in the US that I think are as distinctive as a pump action shotgun being racked. Nor one that instills brownpants syndrome.
Fuck rock salt. Load them shells full of Benadryl and send em to the Hat Man.
Oh, shit. I never thought of that. Imagine all of the chemicals you could use.