The second game starts off with killing the MC from the first game and you follow the other MC around on their revenge tour. From the bits I’ve seen it’s going for an ultra gritty, introspective, Walking Dead style narrative that I just honestly don’t care for anymore. It’s just not my thing.
I also don’t want to invest in the series when I know the main guy from the first one gets done dirty.
I wouldn’t call it “Walking Dead” style. If anything, it wears its Cormac McCarthy influences on its sleeve. If the first game was The Road, the second game is Blood Meridian. The story is intentionally dreary, miserable, uncomfortable, and emotionally draining. Kotaku’s review of the game was pretty on the money for a lot of people, it’s entirely possible to be so put off by the tone and story of the game because it’s so miserable.
The thing is that you play as Ellie and then as Abby to get both perspectives on the story. The entire message of the game is that revenge and unending conflict a downward spiral of self-destruction. Joel gets done dirty… but so does everyone. That’s the whole point of the game.
In the ps3 release the Fireflies hospital was dirty and dingy. In the sequel it’s all squeaky clean.
In the first game the Fireflies are portrayed as shortsighted and incapable of even crossing the country with heavy weaponry. In the sequel they’re treated as if they were perfectly capable of making and disseminating a vaccine.
Neil clearly didn’t like how the first games story turned out and made the sequel into his little fanfic.
Your idea of a retcon is that the hospital looks different in the sequel game in that tiny cutscene you see? It’s not even true, the hospital is still dirty and dingy. You’re also claiming a character having a wishful opinion is a retcon.
Neither of these are retcons.
There’s zero plot or story changes here too to even start making the assertion a retcon happened. How and why are you escalating to accusing the entire TLOU2 of being a fanfic because of two extremely minor things about the previous game, one of which isn’t even true.
Did what in the second one? Made the stealth action more involved?
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The second game starts off with killing the MC from the first game and you follow the other MC around on their revenge tour. From the bits I’ve seen it’s going for an ultra gritty, introspective, Walking Dead style narrative that I just honestly don’t care for anymore. It’s just not my thing.
I also don’t want to invest in the series when I know the main guy from the first one gets done dirty.
I wouldn’t call it “Walking Dead” style. If anything, it wears its Cormac McCarthy influences on its sleeve. If the first game was The Road, the second game is Blood Meridian. The story is intentionally dreary, miserable, uncomfortable, and emotionally draining. Kotaku’s review of the game was pretty on the money for a lot of people, it’s entirely possible to be so put off by the tone and story of the game because it’s so miserable.
The thing is that you play as Ellie and then as Abby to get both perspectives on the story. The entire message of the game is that revenge and unending conflict a downward spiral of self-destruction. Joel gets done dirty… but so does everyone. That’s the whole point of the game.
Made a questionable choice with the story that required retconning the depiction of the final antagonists from the first game, among other choices.
I dunno what you heard but the Fireflies didn’t get retconned.
In the ps3 release the Fireflies hospital was dirty and dingy. In the sequel it’s all squeaky clean.
In the first game the Fireflies are portrayed as shortsighted and incapable of even crossing the country with heavy weaponry. In the sequel they’re treated as if they were perfectly capable of making and disseminating a vaccine.
Neil clearly didn’t like how the first games story turned out and made the sequel into his little fanfic.
Your idea of a retcon is that the hospital looks different in the sequel game in that tiny cutscene you see? It’s not even true, the hospital is still dirty and dingy. You’re also claiming a character having a wishful opinion is a retcon.
Neither of these are retcons.
There’s zero plot or story changes here too to even start making the assertion a retcon happened. How and why are you escalating to accusing the entire TLOU2 of being a fanfic because of two extremely minor things about the previous game, one of which isn’t even true.
Maybe it’s the gay or the woman with muscles
It’s not that. It’s story beats. I explained it in another comment.