• forkDestroyer@infosec.pub
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      14 hours ago

      People think we need to keep growing the population. We’re stuck on a single planet together. If we could live on the moon or Mars it would be a different story, but I think it’s perfectly fine to decrease the population size back to 1980s levels, at least.

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        And we’re talking about the elderly who don’t add any productivity to the planet too.

        Sure, some minority of boomers have a good attitude and want to work for the planet and the future generations, but the reality is that a majority of them have piss poor values and are now a net drain on society.

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          6 hours ago

          Plenty of people in other age groups that are also a net drain on society. We won’t get far if we don’t see it as the class issue that it mostly is.

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            Other age groups don’t entire half the damn economy. Boomers are a class unto themselves.

            Billionaires collectively own about 10 trillion in the US, Boomers collectively over 80 trillion.

            Just going with the US because it’s the best known example. It’s not very dissimilar in other western countries but the US is the worst I believe.

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            Ua the issue isnt age groups but the distribution of resources and access to political power of different classes.

            An 89 year old member of their local community centre will always be more useful to the humanity , and evem the planet , than a 29 year old billionaire lol

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      Not really, unless Gen Z starts having a fuckload of babies soon. Because each generation will be progressively smaller if the fertility rates don’t rise.

      It’s not a huge issue in the third world where your kids are your retirement plan anyway so they have a ton more children. In the developed world, we have pension systems and stuff so on an individual level, having kids is likely bad for you financially, you want other people to have kids so you don’t have to spend a bunch of money raising them, but their taxes pay for your retirement.

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        15 hours ago

        Just funnel money from billionaires into it and problem solved. We can keep the aame money in circulation, half the population, and be fine. I see no issue with lowering birth rates, and wvery issue with a lack of policy changes surrounding it

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          Replying from my other account because I’m too lazy to relog into sopuli on my phone but:

          It’s not that simple. Take the US. Billionaires collectively own about 10 trillion. Boomers collectively over 80 trillion. You take every single cent away from billionaires and you barely make a difference in people’s ability to retire. I mean you should still do that. But money that isn’t backed by labor or goods moving around in the economy is kinda useless and you need people to produce said goods and provide services. All that billionaire moolah is mostly predicated on everyone holding all their stock because stock values fall apart when people sell. You could sell a few million worth of stock and cause that company’s value to go down a billion. It’s smokes and mirrors.

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      Unless there’s some horrible disaster in the coming decades that will kill billions and harm wealthy old people less.

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      People live longer every decade and the definition of Senior Citizen doesn’t change. This would not be a bad fact on its own…but declining birth rates can cause many issues.