The article doesn’t really misrepresent anything… Apple is indeed walking back their promise, and their doing it the T&Cs nobody reads, while doing “opt in” by forcing users to make a choice on this based on deceptive doublespeak.
Yep. They’re moving it to a request that you can’t say “No” to, only “Not now”. Eventually they’ll forego the request and just slap it into a “By using this device, you agree to…” statement.
Look I get that Apple bashing is popular on here, but that’s not what apple does.
The not now is only and annoyingly so, to nudge people to update or upgrade OS versions. License agreements are always agree or decline. And toggles are toggles. Once they are off they are of aand on remains on.
It would have been good to share this during the keynote too, I agree, but considering where they stand on consent and privacy vs the AI behemoths and meta or alphabet, they are still by far the lesser evil of most of Silicon Valley.
Just never use Siri. It’s been available how long? I’ve always shut it off from the get-go. Also, I do not use my Apple ID to log in my computers.
Always use a local password for the hardware and just avoid the cloud like the plague.
FFS, I don’t even keep my music libraries in the default location, since all sorts of holy hell seems to arise (on my ancent systems anyhow) when I do.
This is like all things Apple - you just avoid the new shit, and step away from updating the OS until the first or second update drops because the first adopters are ALWAYS the actual beta testers.
Exactly. I have always had Siri turned off, ever since my very first apple devices, and never had a reason to turn it on. Same with all the AI features. I don’t want them so I keep all AI options turned off, always.
I still have a couple devices on the cloud but only for shit I don’t actually care about, and whenever I get around to cleaning those up I’ll get rid of it there as well. Still on the original 5GB, too: I don’t believe in paying others to store my data when I can and should store it myself.
When it comes down to it I don’t even know why I started turning all that shit off, beyond the fact I found it annoying to speak twice (or more) when I could just quietly type once. I’m no prescient genius, but I am now very glad of whatever luddite instinct made me shut it all off, lol.
Hmm, i missed that Part. On second read it’s only opt in. I still thought they would do better, especially since they said all of their AI features would be privacy focused
Can’t we just make this opt in??? I guess that’s the reason we don’t get Siri AI in the EU for now
It is opt in. Due to capitalism these sites have to resort to clickbait.
The article doesn’t really misrepresent anything… Apple is indeed walking back their promise, and their doing it the T&Cs nobody reads, while doing “opt in” by forcing users to make a choice on this based on deceptive doublespeak.
Yep. They’re moving it to a request that you can’t say “No” to, only “Not now”. Eventually they’ll forego the request and just slap it into a “By using this device, you agree to…” statement.
Or they’ll just keep bothering the shit out of you until you agree. That’s what “not now” means in the Apple world.
Look I get that Apple bashing is popular on here, but that’s not what apple does.
The not now is only and annoyingly so, to nudge people to update or upgrade OS versions. License agreements are always agree or decline. And toggles are toggles. Once they are off they are of aand on remains on.
It would have been good to share this during the keynote too, I agree, but considering where they stand on consent and privacy vs the AI behemoths and meta or alphabet, they are still by far the lesser evil of most of Silicon Valley.
It’s opt in only with the not now option…
Source?
E: apparently it reads “not now” in the beta screens
According to the article, it is opt-in but you have to of course trust the mega corporation at their word
Which means eventually its going to “accidentally” be opt out as a
bugfeature.Or they just do it anyway, easier to ask for forgiveness than permission, after all it’s only a .001% revenue fine if caught.
Just never use Siri. It’s been available how long? I’ve always shut it off from the get-go. Also, I do not use my Apple ID to log in my computers.
Always use a local password for the hardware and just avoid the cloud like the plague.
FFS, I don’t even keep my music libraries in the default location, since all sorts of holy hell seems to arise (on my ancent systems anyhow) when I do.
This is like all things Apple - you just avoid the new shit, and step away from updating the OS until the first or second update drops because the first adopters are ALWAYS the actual beta testers.
Been that way since MacOS 7.
Exactly. I have always had Siri turned off, ever since my very first apple devices, and never had a reason to turn it on. Same with all the AI features. I don’t want them so I keep all AI options turned off, always.
I still have a couple devices on the cloud but only for shit I don’t actually care about, and whenever I get around to cleaning those up I’ll get rid of it there as well. Still on the original 5GB, too: I don’t believe in paying others to store my data when I can and should store it myself.
When it comes down to it I don’t even know why I started turning all that shit off, beyond the fact I found it annoying to speak twice (or more) when I could just quietly type once. I’m no prescient genius, but I am now very glad of whatever luddite instinct made me shut it all off, lol.
Hmm, i missed that Part. On second read it’s only opt in. I still thought they would do better, especially since they said all of their AI features would be privacy focused
Only opt-in …for now