i don’t think we should hate who we are or who the people are in our countries are, but the present state of things in our countries and political beliefs of those people
you can’t have a successful revolution if you just consider everyone is bad just because they’re born in a country with messed up politics. as much at it sucks to have to overlook awful political ideas, you have to see the human in everyone to win them over.
i’m saying this because you make it seem like being danish is something bad. of course, most people in the present most likely have terrible political ideas you have to disassociate being danish with the politics, otherwise youre going to have a miserable time.
there’s nothing stopping from those “bad” danish people turning into the greatest revolutionaries of our time, when the conditions are right and they wake up to the exploitation of our current system.
i don’t think we should hate who we are or who the people are in our countries are, but the present state of things in our countries and political beliefs of those people
Hating settlers is a good thing actually. Most of America belongs to the Natives and you can very much have hate in your heart for the occupation of land; ideals or not. I don’t blame a Native for hating white people even if their ideals are different than most other white people.
“bad” danish people turning into the greatest revolutionaries of our time, when the conditions are right and they wake up to the exploitation of our current system.
We know why this doesn’t happen. It doesn’t happen because the Western proletariat is captured and beheld to their own interests over the survival of the third world. They are imperialists and will remain as such until modern colonialism is dismantled entirely. I don’t blame people for hating Europe or America or the people in it for that exact reason. Settlers is good read.
Edit: I’m beginning to think we have a bit of a patsoc problem here.
Settlers are settlers. Indigenous have a right to their land and to forcibly remove anyone on it; rightfully hating the descendants of the same people that slaughtered and penned their ancestors. Love, kindness, forgiveness does not come into account here nor should it.
right, it seems you’re not acting in good faith, so i’m done.
should’ve realized that at the point when you declared your opinions as empirical fact.
btw i really dislike this tendency some of us leftists have of throwing a random pejorative when their positions get challenged, even when it is in good faith. it is a ridiculous look
Settlers being settlers is not “an opinion”. America and Israel are a settler colony that forcefully subjugates, exploits, massacres and pens in indigenous people. These are not opinions. That is indeed empirical fact.
Nor should it be an opinion that people have a right to take action or have anger at the injustice committed against them currently and their ancestors. Otherwise, Palestinians would have no right to resist. The land belonged to the Natives and the Palestinians originally and they have a right to seize it back by whatever means necessary. If you think this is something to be challenged; you deserve more than pejoratives and zero good faith.
I think the only person not in good faith is someone who is arguing from genuine patriotic socialist tendencies, comparing native fury against zionist occupation and genuinely thinking they are making a point arguing against colonial liberation or at the very least putting a position that is inconsistent with such (see above!). You are correct I am using pejoratives, because I don’t have respect and only contempt for those who call themselves “leftists” and are not for anti-colonial liberation nor anti-imperialism so I don’t really give a fuck what you think is a “good look” or not. You are on a “tankie” M-L board.
Anyways, fuck yourself and patsocs should be boiled.
Also, besides the entire point of politics; if someone hurts the people I love due to mental illness (a reason out of their control to simplify it further) you cannot reasonably expect me not to respond. If you’re going to excuse the actions of mental illness; then you can also excuse the actions of the person responding in grief, anger or at injustice to bring this thought experiment up a scale. That is as nicely as I am going to explain it to you; the rest is using an analysis of class struggle, anti-imperialism and materialism.
You are an autistic freak of nature. Autism is the ideology of silicon valley. You freaks will get what you deserve soon enough. The people (those you call “normies”) will nail you to a cross right alongside Elon Musk and Co. Or just fucking die already and kill youself now.
My country’s subreddit is on there. I hate being Danish. One of the most pro-Ukrainian countries in Europe
Also the country capitulating to the empire without any fight.
It’s sad. I hope I can convince my relatives that that’s what’s happening
i don’t think we should hate who we are or who the people are in our countries are, but the present state of things in our countries and political beliefs of those people
you can’t have a successful revolution if you just consider everyone is bad just because they’re born in a country with messed up politics. as much at it sucks to have to overlook awful political ideas, you have to see the human in everyone to win them over.
i’m saying this because you make it seem like being danish is something bad. of course, most people in the present most likely have terrible political ideas you have to disassociate being danish with the politics, otherwise youre going to have a miserable time.
there’s nothing stopping from those “bad” danish people turning into the greatest revolutionaries of our time, when the conditions are right and they wake up to the exploitation of our current system.
Hating settlers is a good thing actually. Most of America belongs to the Natives and you can very much have hate in your heart for the occupation of land; ideals or not. I don’t blame a Native for hating white people even if their ideals are different than most other white people.
We know why this doesn’t happen. It doesn’t happen because the Western proletariat is captured and beheld to their own interests over the survival of the third world. They are imperialists and will remain as such until modern colonialism is dismantled entirely. I don’t blame people for hating Europe or America or the people in it for that exact reason. Settlers is good read.
Edit: I’m beginning to think we have a bit of a patsoc problem here.
in my opinion, nobody should get hate for something they have no control over.
Opinions are like an anus. Everyone has one.
Settlers are settlers. Indigenous have a right to their land and to forcibly remove anyone on it; rightfully hating the descendants of the same people that slaughtered and penned their ancestors. Love, kindness, forgiveness does not come into account here nor should it.
that’s what a lot of israelis like to say about palestinians
“israelis” aren’t indigenous to Palestine, they’re settlers from the usa and europe
Are we actually comparing righteous native injustice to Israeli occupation? And some stupid motherfucker liked your comment?
Hey, the difference is that America and Israel are occupying settler colonies and Natives/Palestinians are not. Jesus Christ, we got patsocs in here?
right, it seems you’re not acting in good faith, so i’m done.
should’ve realized that at the point when you declared your opinions as empirical fact.
btw i really dislike this tendency some of us leftists have of throwing a random pejorative when their positions get challenged, even when it is in good faith. it is a ridiculous look
Settlers being settlers is not “an opinion”. America and Israel are a settler colony that forcefully subjugates, exploits, massacres and pens in indigenous people. These are not opinions. That is indeed empirical fact.
Nor should it be an opinion that people have a right to take action or have anger at the injustice committed against them currently and their ancestors. Otherwise, Palestinians would have no right to resist. The land belonged to the Natives and the Palestinians originally and they have a right to seize it back by whatever means necessary. If you think this is something to be challenged; you deserve more than pejoratives and zero good faith.
I think the only person not in good faith is someone who is arguing from genuine patriotic socialist tendencies, comparing native fury against zionist occupation and genuinely thinking they are making a point arguing against colonial liberation or at the very least putting a position that is inconsistent with such (see above!). You are correct I am using pejoratives, because I don’t have respect and only contempt for those who call themselves “leftists” and are not for anti-colonial liberation nor anti-imperialism so I don’t really give a fuck what you think is a “good look” or not. You are on a “tankie” M-L board.
Anyways, fuck yourself and patsocs should be boiled.
edit: Pretty sure this person is a troll.
Also, besides the entire point of politics; if someone hurts the people I love due to mental illness (a reason out of their control to simplify it further) you cannot reasonably expect me not to respond. If you’re going to excuse the actions of mental illness; then you can also excuse the actions of the person responding in grief, anger or at injustice to bring this thought experiment up a scale. That is as nicely as I am going to explain it to you; the rest is using an analysis of class struggle, anti-imperialism and materialism.
You are an autistic freak of nature. Autism is the ideology of silicon valley. You freaks will get what you deserve soon enough. The people (those you call “normies”) will nail you to a cross right alongside Elon Musk and Co. Or just fucking die already and kill youself now.
I find it wild that Western European “leftists” can look at their country and be most offended by its links to the wrong kind of eastern savages.