• opiumfree@lemmygrad.ml
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    is this a safe place where i can say that in the capitalist world, therapy and other mental health treatments act largely as a means to manage the symptoms of alienation and other ailments caused by capitalism. it is like a service center for the workers where they receive enough to not 1. commit suicide and cause capitalists to lose their surplus value and 2. stop any actually radical ideas

    i’m not against therapy but like most things in the capitalist system it sucks by the way its put in practice rather than intristically.

    i noticed that a lot of american communists avoid the mental health system like the plague despite speaking about their mental health struggles openly (because they believe it is attached to the system rather than something wrong with them in particular)

    i dont think this person is pathetic as much as they are misguided and dont have the correct community around them. they only mention themselves and a therapist in this comment, no collective that they would talk to, organize with…

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      Besides the psychiatry as a field, has a very dark eugenics background. It was basically born in tandem with fascism, which is why the Soviets found that field so distasteful.

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        if you say this to libs theyll look at you like youre crazy but so many americans are on antidepressants while in the rest of the world its considered heavy duty stuff and NOT given to any average citizen…

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          Because the goal of the system is to return you to being an effective worker, not wellness.

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          Yeah where I am from medical professionals rarely prescribe high doses medication, its harder to get the heavy stuff.

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            i remember a documentary, i cant remember what war (it was post 2000) but it was a traumatized veteran who didnt look older than 20 and then they had a treament segment and he had a talk therapist and spent time with his parents, no medication at all…

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        The most famous Psychiatrists in history were mentally fucked people with equally fucked up politics.

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        Ohh. Is there some resource to learn more about that? I didn’t think that psychiatry had birthmarks like that or that the soviets had a particular distaste for it.

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          Its not really a socialist author but here Psychiatry after Kraepelin

          An important to note is Lev Vygotsky’s cultural-historical psychology theory. Mosche Wulff was also an early figure (but he became later an establishing figure in Israhelli psychiatry so go figure).

          After the Lenin’s death especially Freudian psychoanalysis was rejected outright.

          Western society was more focused on stopping mental illness, while the soviets primarily were interested in care and mental illness divorced from a biological origin.

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      that is a succinct way of putting it. the function of therapy as a “service center” is especially chilling to me.

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        it really shouldnt be that way it should be professional help to make you happier not a way to get you back to work/functional for a court case…