• davel@lemmy.ml
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    1 day ago

    Who is telling you not to vote? What we’re telling you is: https://lemmy.ml/comment/22575324

    It’s not wrong to say regulatory capture is a problem, it just doesn’t go far enough. The US government was never not captured by the bourgeoisie, because the US was born of a bourgeois revolution[1]. The wealthy, white, male, land-owning, largely slave-owning Founding Fathers constructed a bourgeois state with “checks and balances” against the “tyranny of the majority”. It was never meant to represent the majority—the working class—and it never has, despite eventually allowing women and non-whites (at least those not disenfranchised by the carceral system) to vote. BBC: [Princeton & Northwestern] Study: US is an oligarchy, not a democracy

    The game is rigged. The election cycle’s pomp and circumstance is to divert your energy and attention from the fact that it’s a big club, and you ain’t in it.

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      11 hours ago

      Right, and if voting was useless, why do politicians want to take it away from demographics they hate? Why would people have to fight so hard for it?

      If it really didn’t matter and it really was as you say it is, then they wouldn’t need to distract people.

      If you really held onto this stance, then you can’t be mad at people who voted for Trump because it’s all smoke and mirrors anyway and he was picked with what, some shadow government?

      Is organizing a revolution so easily distracted that spending like, a little part of a day casting a ballot something that’ll completely undermine everything? Is it that fragile?

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        9 hours ago

        Is organizing a revolution so easily distracted that spending like, a little part of a day casting a ballot something that’ll completely undermine everything?

        Not at all. Again, who is saying not to vote?

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          5 hours ago

          Literally the other person replying next to you said it’s a useless system distracting people. You don’t have to say “don’t vote” exactly to say not to vote.

          Also there’s a bunch of people on here saying not to vote so…

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        9 hours ago

        then they wouldn’t need to distract people.

        The distraction is the voting system itself. Seems to work better on you than on most other people.

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          5 hours ago

          Right, so voting is a pointless distraction that… The oligarchs still need to use for some reason.

          If the people in power didn’t need to get votes, we wouldn’t be having elections. They would ignore all pretense and just make the whole country into a company town.

          But hey, you want conservatives to have an easier time taking power with the system as is? Go ahead and don’t vote.

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            5 hours ago

            Right, so voting is a pointless distraction that… The oligarchs still need to use for some reason.

            We know the reasons, and we know the oligarchs will dispense with the pretense of elections when they hinder more than they help. Fascism isn’t a grassroots movement; it’s an astroturfed one funded by oligarchs. They fully unleash it when they become frustrated with bourgeois democracy.