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MattW03@lemmy.ca to linuxmemes@lemmy.worldEnglish · 5 hours ago

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    If anything Linux is also taking the bottle, it seems like: https://www.theregister.com/os-platforms/2026/08/10/linus-torvalds-says-ai-has-made-huge-linux-kernel-updates-the-new-normal/5285268 Completely self-inflicted, though, from what I can tell. Apparently they just enjoyed having a copyright time bomb as part of the code, or something - or I don’t know why else they’d do it.

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      “But it is what it is: the new normal with a lot of fixes, many of them due to review by various AI tools.”

      AFAIK the “huge updates” are written by humans in response to LLM found bugs.

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        Linus Torvalds confirmed LLM use for new code is fine: https://arstechnica.com/ai/2026/07/linus-torvalds-to-critics-of-ai-coding-in-linux-fork-it-or-just-walk-away/ So I doubt it’s just human work.

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          I read through the exact message chain that article is referencing some time ago, which did not lead me to the conclusion the article would suggest. It seems that he consistently refers to AI use from the perspective of finding bugs more so than than fixing them, which he could definitely do a better job clarifying.

          The message

          https://lore.kernel.org/linux-media/CAHk-=wi4zC+Ze8e+p3tMv8TtG_80KzsZ1syL9anBtmEh5Z40vg@mail.gmail.com/

          Subject: Re: Linking Patchwork with Sashiko?

          [snip]

          I think it makes the point of sashiko - helping maintainers - unachievable. If the point to not use
          LLMs in general, let’s discuss this, not how to make each use case more complex.

          It seems like [1] expresses a very anti-LLM position in general

          Yes.

          And no, that’s not the position of the Linux kernel.

          I realize that some people really dislike AI, but this is an area
          where I’m willing to absolutely put my foot down as the top-level
          maintainer.

          Linux is not one of those anti-AI projects, and if somebody has issues
          with that, they can do the open-source thing and fork it.

          [snip]

          Yes, it can also be a somewhat painful tool, both for maintainer
          workloads and just from a “it keeps finding embarrassing bugs”
          standpoint.

          [snip]

          (emphasis/snips mine)

          EDIT: Note: sashiko is an LLM driven code review tool someone runs on the linux kernel. This entire discussion was about a code review tool.

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      At least the kernel hasn’t (yet) gone full KDE.

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        The KDE thing was a specific person declaring that they would hold a meeting about Gen AI in KDE, who hasn’t contributed to the project in years otherwise. Nobody is going to convince everyone to compile their own vibecoded version of KDE’s projects.

        EDIT: See https://discuss.kde.org/t/sorry-to-bring-up-a-contentious-topic-kde-ai-llm-policy/46333/187. The developers seem to be responding in an acceptable manner, although I only looked at the start and end since it’s quite a long discussion.

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        THe kernel seems to be full steam ahead slop: https://arstechnica.com/ai/2026/07/linus-torvalds-to-critics-of-ai-coding-in-linux-fork-it-or-just-walk-away/ (Apart from the kernel subsystems were LLM use was banned, I think I heard something like that about something graphics related but I might be misremembering.)

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