this is just infantile. the only way in your mind to resist imperialism is to bomb the venezuelan communes, and the whole of venezuela, until it’s nothing but dust. your freedom fighters are only good to you if they all get themselves killed. and if you’re gonna start pulling out barely-relevant quotes:
A revolution does not march a straight line. It wanders where it can, retreats before superior forces, advances wherever it has room, attacks whenever the enemy retreats or bluffs, and above all, is possessed of enormous patience.
- Mao Zedong
it’s not lost on me that mao himself came to power because of his leadership during a massive retreat. and my guess is that despite having done no research, despite being unable to answer a single one of the legitimate questions i’ve asked, you imagine yourself in a better position to speak on this issue than the venezuelan anti-imperialists. here’s another mao quote for you.
Unless you have investigated a problem, you will be deprived of the right to speak on it. Isn’t that too harsh? Not in the least. When you have not probed into a problem, into the present facts and its past history, and know nothing of its essentials, whatever you say about it will undoubtedly be nonsense.
but real socialists like mao or lenin or stalin would never negotiate with the enemy! certainly they would never sign a treaty with a bourgeois state, liberal or fascist! and if i look, i won’t be able to find a single picture of any one of these real socialists standing with a western leader like the evil delcy rodriguez. a real socialist like joseph stalin would just push the permanent revolution button and abolish all existing social relations at one stroke! anything less would be cowardly, says the infantile westerner who will never suffer the consequences of the collapse of a socialist project.
lenin, stalin and mao never once surrendered their entire nations resources in perpetuity to be held and controlled by the imperialists. All you are doing is making excuses for surrender and coping over total defeat. You would make these same arguments about Yeltsin and Gorbachev, they apply equally to their treasons, after all those were just “strategic retreats” and the party can never do wrong or be compromised. This isn’t a “retreat” it’s a complete collapse and capitulation into non-socialism. An economy dictated and controlled by Americans who disburse the funds and write the checks can never be socialism. A nation falling into being colonized is not a “retreat” it’s a defeat of everything a nation represents and its millions of people.
Mao retreated during a WAR and REVOLUTION against imperialists! Not by surrendering to them! He won because he refused to surrender and fought against all odds!
“in perpetuity” they normalized relations with a country that absolutely will put boots on the ground to kill them. for multiple reasons, yeltsin and gorbachev have jackshit to do with this. for one, they destroyed a genuine dictatorship of the proletariat. venezuela was never that. the organs of proletarian power in venezuela lie outside the state, and so long as they still stand, what right do you have to compare this to 91? none at all. on the eve of the collapse of the empire, you demand that these countries destroy themselves first. you insist that venezuelans, with no regard to their material position, immediately put on a show of force against the biggest empire in the world. you would see venezuelan communism destroyed just so you could jerk yourself off about how noble they were. you are the height of the western left. your martyr complex won’t build socialism anywhere.
Revolution is built by martyrs, not by those afraid of a single death. Revolution is not a dinner party. Your cowardice is apparent to all and will result in socialism being a pariah in Venezuela for decades to come as the face of sell outs
gish galloping nonsense. you are a bad faith coward
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-5/mswv5_40.htm
This is how socialists talk.
“Some people might die if we try to do socialism and resist the epstein billionaires taking over our country”
This is how you talk
this is just infantile. the only way in your mind to resist imperialism is to bomb the venezuelan communes, and the whole of venezuela, until it’s nothing but dust. your freedom fighters are only good to you if they all get themselves killed. and if you’re gonna start pulling out barely-relevant quotes:
- Mao Zedong
it’s not lost on me that mao himself came to power because of his leadership during a massive retreat. and my guess is that despite having done no research, despite being unable to answer a single one of the legitimate questions i’ve asked, you imagine yourself in a better position to speak on this issue than the venezuelan anti-imperialists. here’s another mao quote for you.
but real socialists like mao or lenin or stalin would never negotiate with the enemy! certainly they would never sign a treaty with a bourgeois state, liberal or fascist! and if i look, i won’t be able to find a single picture of any one of these real socialists standing with a western leader like the evil delcy rodriguez. a real socialist like joseph stalin would just push the permanent revolution button and abolish all existing social relations at one stroke! anything less would be cowardly, says the infantile westerner who will never suffer the consequences of the collapse of a socialist project.
lenin, stalin and mao never once surrendered their entire nations resources in perpetuity to be held and controlled by the imperialists. All you are doing is making excuses for surrender and coping over total defeat. You would make these same arguments about Yeltsin and Gorbachev, they apply equally to their treasons, after all those were just “strategic retreats” and the party can never do wrong or be compromised. This isn’t a “retreat” it’s a complete collapse and capitulation into non-socialism. An economy dictated and controlled by Americans who disburse the funds and write the checks can never be socialism. A nation falling into being colonized is not a “retreat” it’s a defeat of everything a nation represents and its millions of people.
Mao retreated during a WAR and REVOLUTION against imperialists! Not by surrendering to them! He won because he refused to surrender and fought against all odds!
“in perpetuity” they normalized relations with a country that absolutely will put boots on the ground to kill them. for multiple reasons, yeltsin and gorbachev have jackshit to do with this. for one, they destroyed a genuine dictatorship of the proletariat. venezuela was never that. the organs of proletarian power in venezuela lie outside the state, and so long as they still stand, what right do you have to compare this to 91? none at all. on the eve of the collapse of the empire, you demand that these countries destroy themselves first. you insist that venezuelans, with no regard to their material position, immediately put on a show of force against the biggest empire in the world. you would see venezuelan communism destroyed just so you could jerk yourself off about how noble they were. you are the height of the western left. your martyr complex won’t build socialism anywhere.
Revolution is built by martyrs, not by those afraid of a single death. Revolution is not a dinner party. Your cowardice is apparent to all and will result in socialism being a pariah in Venezuela for decades to come as the face of sell outs
so answer the questions i asked about your plan.