I agree with you on everything but the housing part. The opponents are more often property owners in the area who have “something to lose” - in their resale value and the neighborhood getting more congested (but let’s be real, their main reason is not wanting to live by the filthy poors)
That said, I wouldn’t have moved here if there was a 20-unit building on the block so I imagine I wouldn’t be thrilled about one getting built.
tell that to half of my renter friends who scream about rent prices but who also think no new apartments should exist and who are up in arms whenever a new apartment building is proposed in the city.
you don’t have to be own property to be a hypocritical dumbass on housing policy. just entitled enough to think you should have cheap housing costs and NOBODY ELSE ever should…
I’m not saying NO ONE is a hypocrite but the most vocal opponents - and the ones most likely to show up to a city council meeting to complain - are property owners in the affected areas. The general whiners aren’t moving the needle much
I worked on a (unfinished as we did not “win”) documentary about Chicago’s bid to host the 2016 olympics so I spent a LOT of time at those and it was exclusively rich people living in gentrified areas
I have. It’s not just property owners. it’s a lot of different people who show up, and most of them are dumb as rocks and spout ignorant nonsense, because what they are really doing is vocalizing their feelings that they don’t like change.
and then when someone who is informed or smart shows up, people shout them down as if they are pushing a conspiracy on them, or concern troll them with ridiculous scenarios or demands.
You can blame the rich all you want, in my life experience in housing policy, everyone is an idiot about it, the difference is the rich have the lawyers to gum up the system, but often poor people will do the same way via an advocacy group.
Being poor or renting doesn’t’ make you a saint, despite what lemmy idealists seem to think.
I haven’t been to one since COVID (and now I’ve moved) but I was also at almost every meeting about the redevelopment of my neighborhood. I lived in a working class commuter area and the only opponents to the apartment buildings were the rich homeowners in the neighborhood over. Their biggest stated concerns were the congestion.
They wanted more chain stores but lost the fight. Even their alderman came out in support of construction so they lost
I agree with you on everything but the housing part. The opponents are more often property owners in the area who have “something to lose” - in their resale value and the neighborhood getting more congested (but let’s be real, their main reason is not wanting to live by the filthy poors)
That said, I wouldn’t have moved here if there was a 20-unit building on the block so I imagine I wouldn’t be thrilled about one getting built.
tell that to half of my renter friends who scream about rent prices but who also think no new apartments should exist and who are up in arms whenever a new apartment building is proposed in the city.
you don’t have to be own property to be a hypocritical dumbass on housing policy. just entitled enough to think you should have cheap housing costs and NOBODY ELSE ever should…
I’m not saying NO ONE is a hypocrite but the most vocal opponents - and the ones most likely to show up to a city council meeting to complain - are property owners in the affected areas. The general whiners aren’t moving the needle much
I worked on a (unfinished as we did not “win”) documentary about Chicago’s bid to host the 2016 olympics so I spent a LOT of time at those and it was exclusively rich people living in gentrified areas
do you go to city council meetings?
I have. It’s not just property owners. it’s a lot of different people who show up, and most of them are dumb as rocks and spout ignorant nonsense, because what they are really doing is vocalizing their feelings that they don’t like change.
and then when someone who is informed or smart shows up, people shout them down as if they are pushing a conspiracy on them, or concern troll them with ridiculous scenarios or demands.
You can blame the rich all you want, in my life experience in housing policy, everyone is an idiot about it, the difference is the rich have the lawyers to gum up the system, but often poor people will do the same way via an advocacy group.
Being poor or renting doesn’t’ make you a saint, despite what lemmy idealists seem to think.
Yes, read the second paragraph in my post lol
I haven’t been to one since COVID (and now I’ve moved) but I was also at almost every meeting about the redevelopment of my neighborhood. I lived in a working class commuter area and the only opponents to the apartment buildings were the rich homeowners in the neighborhood over. Their biggest stated concerns were the congestion.
They wanted more chain stores but lost the fight. Even their alderman came out in support of construction so they lost