Crossposted from https://thebrainbin.org/m/germany@feddit.org/t/1945027

A small town in eastern Germany banned the installation of new Holocaust memorial plaques that mark the last known residence or workplace of Jews and other victims of the genocide.

The motion was proposed by the far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) and the centre-right Christian Democratic Union (CDU)…

      • Sherad@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
        111·
        4 days ago

        Look mang you really have been kinda disingenuous and frankly incurious.

        You need to look into the methodology used in the black book of communism, the lengths they went to tack on as many zeroes as possible, the fact that they include German nazi soldier deaths from ww2 as part of the numbers alone - does that really not make you feel like… a little curious as to the angle? Its use as a propaganda piece? Can you be as critical of the millions of deaths attributed to capitalism? Imperialism? Do you levy such criticisms… ever?

        “their evil communist propaganda, our good and noble capitalist truth”

        I do hope you look into the origins of “whataboutism” like the other posters said, if you can stop your knees from jerking for but a moment. Speaking human to human here.

      • Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml
        72·
        4 days ago

        I think they’re funny when they only exist in the imaginations of people like you, lmfao.

        Right, so no sources.

        • modem_down@thebrainbin.orgOP
          214·
          4 days ago
          • You: Sources?
          • Me: [Points to article with dozens of reputable sources.]
          • You: Right, so no sources.

          Sheer denialism.

            • Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml
              7·
              4 days ago

              “Unborn Nazis” is literally what the black book of communism is calling victims of communism, you should do some more research before you remove comments, mod.

            • modem_down@thebrainbin.orgOP
              213·
              4 days ago

              Which source is reputable?

              Why should I list them all for you, when I’ve already linked to the article that does so? Here are just a few:

              • Bellamy, Alex J. (2012), “Massacres and Morality: Mass Killing in an Age of Civilian Immunity” (PDF), Human Rights Quarterly, 34 (4), The Johns Hopkins University Press: 927‒958, doi:10.1353/hrq.2012.0066, JSTOR 23352235, S2CID 86858244
              • Bradley, Mark Philip (2017), “Human Rights and Communism”, in Fürst, Juliane; Pons, Silvio; Selden, Mark (eds.), The Cambridge History of Communism: Volume 3, Endgames? Late Communism in Global Perspective, 1968 to the Present, Cambridge University Press, ISBN 978-1-108-50935-0.
              • Karlsson, Klas-Göran; Schoenhals, Michael (2008), Crimes against humanity under communist regimes – Research review, Forum for Living History, ISBN 978-91-977487-2-8.
              • Valentino, Benjamin (2005). Final Solutions: Mass Killing and Genocide in the Twentieth Century. Cornell University Press. ISBN 9780801472732.

              Calling unborn Nazis victims of the soviet union is laughable at best.

              Calling an unborn person a Nazi is about as offensive as it gets. Blocked.

              • Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml
                10·
                4 days ago

                I dunno if you know this, but the black book of communism features unborn Nazi Germans as victims of communism, it’s fine that you’ve blocked me, I’m sure you’ll learn this along your journey, but the fact that you just copy paste Wikipedia sources and then run away is very funny, lmao.

                • QuietCupcake [any, they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
                  4·
                  4 days ago

                  I want to preface this by saying I am in near complete agreement with you and appreciate your comments in this thread.  But the “unborn Nazi’s” thing is more than a little offputting, and I understand why whatever mod decided to remove your other comment containing that term did so.

                  Even if it is not how you intended it, phrasing it as “unborn Nazis” implies that an unborn person can be Nazi.  They can’t.  Nazism is something that a person is infected with only after they have the cognitive apparatus to absorb and host ideology.  Using the phrase as you did makes it sound like you think that the offspring of Nazis must also inherently be Nazis.  That would be a rather vile belief, which is why I don’t think you actually meant it that way, but nevertheless it is how that phrase comes across.  It wouldn’t be above the liberals or Nazis themselves to claim such a thing, but I really don’t think even they would do so in this case because it’s contrary to the kind of picture they’re trying to paint with all their lies in the Black Book.  They want people to think it was only smol bean innocents that were “victims” of communism and try to obscure the fact that it was literal Nazis targeted by the Soviets, and they want to obscure the fact that their numbers are made up of many potential aka unborn people.  So when you use that phrase, it does sound like you believe “any spawn of Nazis must also be Nazis” which ironically is a very Nazi kind of thing to believe.

                  Anyway, I understand what you were getting at over all, and I’m in agreement with it.  But I think pointing out your wording there is a fair nit to pick out of the rest of your otherwise good commentary.