curtail the us 100% agree, stop exports to ukraine 100% disagree so they will be last on the list of parties i vote for
insane to think if Australia was invaded i’d want a bunch of other pacifists countries telling me how bad they feel and good luck
curtail the us 100% agree, stop exports to ukraine 100% disagree so they will be last on the list of parties i vote for
insane to think if Australia was invaded i’d want a bunch of other pacifists countries telling me how bad they feel and good luck
So you’re good with Labor selling us out to the US and Israel, fine with the NDIS being gutted and overhauled by Palantir, all good with a government that lets American AI companies fuck us up the arse, but you have an issue with one point on the Greens that they’ve held since forever, that’s one driven by peace.
No dramas
Appeasement is not peace.
It’s driven by a position of peace, not appeasement
It’s been their position since forever, for the same rationale: the Greens oppose war and weapons supplies
It might be naive in this current world, but it isn’t appeasement. On that naivety, sinner or later, if we want the decent world we claim we do, we’ll all need to adopt that position.
Sometimes the problem is staring at you in the face 😉
Humans have been throwing shit at each other since we are monkeys and I have no doubt in 2300 we’ll still be fighting wars across planets like in starcraft
our job is to defend ourselves and our allies
You won’t get any argument on that last point, but it doesn’t alter the fact that the Greens and Shoebridge are a far better option than Labor.
Staring us in the face? The threat staring us in the face and we’re doing nothing about is the US and Israel, backed by Labor. They’re a bigger threat than any position the Greens hold on Ukraine. So I wouldn’t go soapboxing or pointing out what our job is if I were you.
Right now it’s to remove the real threat and that’s the US and Israel. It seems quite clear Labor stands against that and I’ll stand behind Shoebridge and the Greens against that, any day of the week.
sorry but ukraine is one of my red lines
climate change
anti-islam
anti-russia
they’re my big 3, saying you won’t provide military support to ukraine is not good enough
you should know me, i don’t give a shit about palestine and while it does piss me off albo taking a big dumb goofy photo with dickfingers, albo strongly supports ukraine, greens don’t, end of story
That’ll do me
That’s enough
Edit: while ever you hold that position, don’t have the hide to judge me on Ukraine particularly when I don’t agree with that position