I was banned for supporting the right of people in eastern Ukraine for not wishing to be part of the state banning their language and doing g pogroms not just against Russians bot Jews and Roma people for 12 years prior to the Russian intervention.

Tanuki was banned just for posting a video of civilians being kidnapped off the street to be forced into a war they know is a lost cause.

If this is what you call Anarchism I am ashamed of you.

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    They voted to make their own state and the Ukrainian govt started slaughtering them. This is the issue with states you can’t really opt out without support from someone else. And yes Russia is a preferable alternative when the Kiev govt forces had literally been doing pogroms and shelling civilians for seeking independence.

    The only one forcing them to seek help from Russia is the Ukrainian state. It is childish to believe yo can just opt out of your own government when they just try to murder you anyway.

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      How is your “free state” free if it is entirely beholden to the US and the west?

      in what world do you think “freedom for working class people” means being a part of ukraine? this is internalized propaganda that you are struggling with.

      Russia is a preferable alternative

      your avatar has the pride flag on it. how do you personally reconcile your belief that russia is better with the fact that russia has criminalized queerness?

      also,

      Nothing I said was pro Russia

      Russia is a preferable alternative

      it feels good to be honest, no?

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        Have you looked at Ukraine?

        Pride is banned there too please spare me using my identity as a shield to defend a Nazi controlled state.

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          Nazi controlled state

          how do you reconcile calling russia a preferable alternative considering the rampant white supremacy that is supported by the government? moth finds it hard to take your claims you are not pro-russian seriously when you have expressed explicit support for homophobic, transphobic nazis statists.

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            Despite being neoliberal and conservative, a crucial ideological component of the current Russian state is the historical memory of the Great Patriotic War, which forces them into the position of being anti-nazi, so neo-nazis and the most virulent white supremacists have to be cracked down on or else they’ll lose historical legitimacy

            Meanwhile here is just a tiny selection of Ukrainian fascists and neo-nazis marching proudly in the open with full state support

            One of these is obviously much, much worse than the other, and the people of the Donbas have made their choice as to which side of the border they’d like to be on

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        Russia is the preferable alternative for the ethnic Russians in Ukraine(17%) of its population pre-2014 and Russian first language speakers who made up a third

        The new Ukrainian state after the US backed ‘euromaidan’ coup(in reaction to a pro-russian president winning an election over a pro-western one) https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/15/john-mccain-ukraine-protests-support-just-cause

        They banned the language from public education https://zakon.rada.gov.ua/laws/show/en/2145-19

        The post-coup Ukranian state renames streets after literal Nazi collaborators involved in the Holocaust https://www.timesofisrael.com/kiev-renames-major-street-to-honor-russian-nazi-collaborator/

        They incorporated avowed neo-nazi, civilian slaughtering paramilitaries into their state military https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Brigade#2014_incorporation_into_the_National_Guard

        People have a right to self-determination and obvious reasons not to live in such a state

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          They don’t incorporate avowed civillian slaughtering neo-nazi paramilitaries into their state military like ukraine did with Azov https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Brigade#2014_incorporation_into_the_National_Guard

          except that they do do that, and the state-sanctioned russia imperial movement, a neo-nazi monarchist group with ties to the russian government, has deployed militia to ukraine since 2014. moth surely knows you will be appalled to learn this.

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            No they don’t, what’s your source for them being 'state sanctioned?

            Regardless nebulous ‘ties to the russian goverment’ is nowhere near the same as official incorporation into the national guard

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              ah, moth was wrong. it seems you are not apalled. moth regrets to inform you that, per @johnny_arson@hexbear.net, you are now a racist, antisemitic fascist. truly regrettable, but such is the reactionary life you lead, no?

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                  moth assumed you could use wikipedia yourself. moth has no interest in speaking with someone making neo-nazi apologetics. moth does not believe someone who would do such a thing is a good person, so moth will be blocking you now because moth does not associate with bad persons.