• artyom@piefed.social
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      15 days ago

      No one thinks EVs don’t work in the cold, they just have severely shortened range. Which means you need a bigger battery, which means a heavier and more expensive vehicle. You also need faster and more frequent chargers. This is similar to the “Electric trucks can’t tow” strawman. They absolutely can, just not very far . Either is a legitimate reason not to purchase an EV. As stated in the OP, these are wealthy nations where the government is heavily invested, which is smart, but the same doesn’t apply everywhere.

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        Because clearly articles like this wouldn’t exist of NO ONE thought they didnt work in the cold

        Do EVs Work in Cold Weather?

        https://www.greencarfuture.com/electric/why-evs-dont-work-in-cold-weather

        "Electric vehicles do not work in the winter”: Exploring the role of misperceptions and socio-psychological factors in zero-emission vehicle adoption

        https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2214629625005316

        “Electric vehicles do not work in the winter” is one of the misperceptions affecting interests in low-carbon transportation and hindering the electrification of passenger transportation. This study aimed to examine the role of misperceptions of battery electric vehicles and socio-psychological factors in influencing zero-emission vehicle adoption with empirical evidence from Saskatchewan, Canada.

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          14 days ago

          You mean articles talking about how supposed misconceptions are wrong? How about find one that says it in the affirmative?

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            14 days ago

            NotMyOldRedditName is responding to your statement that no one thinks EVs don’t work in the cold, not whether the idea of “working” or shortened range is correct.

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        Having driven electric vehicles in norway in the winter (-20C avg) i can safely inform you their range is not noticeably shortened, even blasting the heat.

        Also my diesel which normally gets 50mpg drops to 20-25 when towing.

        🤷

        Maybe don’t eat the slop the talking heads are paid to shovel into the trough.

        The alarms and “safety features” on new cars are annoying af though. Driving my 2009 into the ground.

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          I’m Norwegian, and I regularily drive a EV a good distance to visit my parents. I can inform you that the range is indeed reduced noticabily in the winter.

          My route is around 350km and includes crossing over a mountain range. My EV has a range of around 300km, which is on the lower end for EVs. In the summer, I can make the trip with a single charging stop around midway. During the winter, I need to charge at least twice during that trip.

          It’s not that I mind charging an additional time, but let’s be honest about how temperature affects range.

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            Maybe Ford did something crazy with their 2025 EVs? I was getting 300km of the stated 350… E18/E6 clear weather dry asphalt. So pretty ideal conditions other than cold.

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              My route is Road 134 over Haukelifjell which could be heavily affected by other driving conditions. But even when I drive on cold days with no other particular conditions, the battery percent drops a lot quicker.

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          Having driven electric vehicles in 10 Texas Winters, and also paying attention to some basic science, I can assure you it absolutely is.

          Also my diesel which normally gets 50mpg drops to 20-25 when towing.

          No one cares when there’s 3 fueling stations per mile and it only takes 5 minutes to refuel.

          Maybe don’t eat the slop the talking heads are paid to shovel into the trough.

          Maybe stop fucking lying 🤷

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            No one cares when there’s 3 fueling stations per mile

            You’re not in Norway.

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              I live in norway and drive an EV. There are a lot of chargers around, and the infrastructure has adapted to EVs being the norm. Most gas stations offer charging and small charging stations are popping up in many other parking lots. Maybe not multiple stations per mile, but enough to never having to be worried about not being able to reach the next charger.

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            The science is the range indicator can say a lower number when the battery is cold. But you get your range back once the battery heats up. Thermal management is really good on recent models. Doesn’t really matter because it’s rare to drive 300+km in a day even in the US.

            It doesn’t matter if you’re driving 45min to work, your car was charged overnight and most workplaces offer charging.

            No one cares when there’s 3 fueling stations per mile and it only takes 5 minutes to refuel.

            I certainly do at ~$12/gal.

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              The science is the range indicator can say a lower number when the battery is cold. But you get your range back once the battery heats up

              I’d love to see that science.

              It doesn’t matter if you’re driving 45min to work, your car was charged overnight

              No one cares about range on their commute to work…