Yes but he’s also DSA, if the democratic party is the vessel that DSA wants to use to get people elected, then DSA elects must still be accountable to the DSA.
I mean, it’s sensible. The “left” in the United States is defunct or heavily co-opted by opportunists, trots spits and literal CIA parties (CPUSA).
Even then, the remaining of those with principles are then split further on either they believe in complete liberation or fall into the “Lassalle” crowd. I would have more hope for the JCP to re-radicalize after their current prime minister plunges the country into austerity than any actual “real movement” in the imperial core.
Does it mean you should stop trying? No. Doesn’t change material reality or that they are settlers and their interests lay there, though.
I agree with all of the criticisms and I don’t have a stake in it since I don’t live in the US. But I will criticise any comment that does not offer any actual analysis and just functions to demotivate people who are trying build a movement.
People tell me to not be an “idealist” and think “materially”.
People who were compradors or served under the apparatus dedicated to crushing dissent or murdering it overseas are not to be trusted because they have demonstrated they have and can still sell out their morals and values to the highest bidder; something a lot of settlers struggle with.
Then you have to take into account what Lemmy truly is: a bunch of “”“progressive”“” Anglos larping as commies while patting themselves on the back: “monsters of my ilk have committed a crime against humanity yet again but we’ll do better the next time. We totes promise.Just be nice to us and them.” The “”““material conditions””“” don’t dictate otherwise, amirite?
Yes but he’s also DSA, if the democratic party is the vessel that DSA wants to use to get people elected, then DSA elects must still be accountable to the DSA.
Just stepping stone for Liberals. When will you all learn there’s no Left in the US?
Very insightful commentary
I mean, it’s sensible. The “left” in the United States is defunct or heavily co-opted by opportunists, trots spits and literal CIA parties (CPUSA).
Even then, the remaining of those with principles are then split further on either they believe in complete liberation or fall into the “Lassalle” crowd. I would have more hope for the JCP to re-radicalize after their current prime minister plunges the country into austerity than any actual “real movement” in the imperial core.
Does it mean you should stop trying? No. Doesn’t change material reality or that they are settlers and their interests lay there, though.
I agree with all of the criticisms and I don’t have a stake in it since I don’t live in the US. But I will criticise any comment that does not offer any actual analysis and just functions to demotivate people who are trying build a movement.
There’s no space for monsters in the Left, that’s all. The blood of all the people killed by them could cover a continent.
People tell me to not be an “idealist” and think “materially”.
People who were compradors or served under the apparatus dedicated to crushing dissent or murdering it overseas are not to be trusted because they have demonstrated they have and can still sell out their morals and values to the highest bidder; something a lot of settlers struggle with.
There’s material thought.
Then you have to take into account what Lemmy truly is: a bunch of “”“progressive”“” Anglos larping as commies while patting themselves on the back: “monsters of my ilk have committed a crime against humanity yet again but we’ll do better the next time. We totes promise.Just be nice to us and them.” The “”““material conditions””“” don’t dictate otherwise, amirite?
Exactly, only an idiot would call them comrades before at least two generations of purge and compulsory reeducation.
These guys were pretty amazing in the past, we need them back on their feet.
When you learn to have better theory takes. Womp womp. Or until you stop crashing out when receiving the most minor of pushback