As a card carrying member of the Socialist Rifle Association, and someone in their 50’s I can tell you that they serve a legitimate purpose. While suppressors don’t actually make firearms ‘silent’, they do reduce the sound by a significant amount. Traditional Ear Protection helps, but doesn’t eliminate the noise entirely. It also does nothing if you happen to take your earpro out for any reason and someone else shoots.
If you do a lot of target practice they can really help save your hearing.
They do nothing to make the weapons deadlier, though you could argue that in very specific and unusual circumstance it could make it easier for a killer to kill someone without getting caught.
I understand they don’t make a gun silent, I’m not falling for any Hollywood myths here. But I also know that hearing protection isn’t the reason why militaries and gun nuts are buying them. I know a gun with a suppressor is still loud as shit, but from where I’m sitting, anything that prolongs catching/stopping a shooter is something that makes the shooter more deadly. And for that reason, it absolutely should be regulated.
Alright, so, no one here seems to be prior military. Yes, actually, that’s exactly why militaries use them. So, for the practical, it’s really fucking hard to communicate during a firefight and I promise you any sort of assistance is nice. Being able to communicate is a major factor to being an effective force.
Second, it costs the government a lot of money in disability. A lot. Pretty sure tinnitus is the most common issue paid out.
I also want no shooters, and yet there are shooters. Given that there are shooters, if you don’t want them to have suppressors, then you do want them to cause hearing damage to bystanders.
I don’t really believe in the concept of a considerate shooter that wants to protect my ears by using a suppressor. Maybe at a gun range, but not elsewhere.
They buy them because the “operators” they’re cosplaying as use them.
The police and the military use them because guns are loud as fuck and produce muzzle flash – which are even worse in a poorly lit building. With a suppressor they’re not being blinded and can actually hear what’s going on.
Yeah, you’re not going to convince me that something that helps police and militaries shoot innocent people in poorly lit buildings is a good thing. Ban em.
But I also know that hearing protection isn’t the reason why militaries and gun nuts are buying them.
You don’t think soldiers or gun nuts value their hearing? I don’t hang around either group but from experience most people don’t particularly like to go deaf.
anything that prolongs catching/stopping a shooter is something that makes the shooter more deadly.
And how would ‘regulating’ them stop that from happening exactly?
All it really would do is make it harder for people who use them to help protect their hearing.
You don’t know that, and further you don’t care. You’ve made up your mind that “Guns Bad” and you won’t consider anything that disagrees with you. You are a zealot.
You do you, but it’s useless to discuss the issue with people like you. You ain’t going to hear it no matter what people say.
You call me a zealot, I call you a cultist. I see no reason why all guns and gun accessories shouldn’t be regulated. Fewer guns really does translate to fewer gun deaths, and making it a pain in the ass to shop for your murder stick accessories would further discourage people from participating in the “hobby”.
The difference is you call me a cultist because you are a zealot. I am willing to listen to reasonable arguments, you are not.
You know nothing at all about me, my reasons for gun ownership or what my stance actually is, and you don’t care to ask or make any distinction between me and a member of the MAGAt militia.
You see no reason… You could have just stopped there. How could you possibly see reason if you are immune to it?
As a card carrying member of the Socialist Rifle Association, and someone in their 50’s I can tell you that they serve a legitimate purpose. While suppressors don’t actually make firearms ‘silent’, they do reduce the sound by a significant amount. Traditional Ear Protection helps, but doesn’t eliminate the noise entirely. It also does nothing if you happen to take your earpro out for any reason and someone else shoots.
If you do a lot of target practice they can really help save your hearing.
They do nothing to make the weapons deadlier, though you could argue that in very specific and unusual circumstance it could make it easier for a killer to kill someone without getting caught.
I understand they don’t make a gun silent, I’m not falling for any Hollywood myths here. But I also know that hearing protection isn’t the reason why militaries and gun nuts are buying them. I know a gun with a suppressor is still loud as shit, but from where I’m sitting, anything that prolongs catching/stopping a shooter is something that makes the shooter more deadly. And for that reason, it absolutely should be regulated.
Alright, so, no one here seems to be prior military. Yes, actually, that’s exactly why militaries use them. So, for the practical, it’s really fucking hard to communicate during a firefight and I promise you any sort of assistance is nice. Being able to communicate is a major factor to being an effective force.
Second, it costs the government a lot of money in disability. A lot. Pretty sure tinnitus is the most common issue paid out.
Source: former infantryman.
I don’t want to give people in firefights assistance. If you’re willing to use a gun in a firefight, you deserve hearing damage.
If you’re in the vicinity, you’re in the firefight whether you have a gun or not. You want the shooters to have suppressors.
No, I want no shooters.
I also want no shooters, and yet there are shooters. Given that there are shooters, if you don’t want them to have suppressors, then you do want them to cause hearing damage to bystanders.
I don’t really believe in the concept of a considerate shooter that wants to protect my ears by using a suppressor. Maybe at a gun range, but not elsewhere.
I don’t care what you do or don’t believe in. At this point you’re arguing just to argue.
They buy them because the “operators” they’re cosplaying as use them.
The police and the military use them because guns are loud as fuck and produce muzzle flash – which are even worse in a poorly lit building. With a suppressor they’re not being blinded and can actually hear what’s going on.
Yeah, you’re not going to convince me that something that helps police and militaries shoot innocent people in poorly lit buildings is a good thing. Ban em.
You don’t think soldiers or gun nuts value their hearing? I don’t hang around either group but from experience most people don’t particularly like to go deaf.
And how would ‘regulating’ them stop that from happening exactly?
All it really would do is make it harder for people who use them to help protect their hearing.
If they value their hearing, they should stop playing with guns.
Nobody’s playing with them.
I can assure you that the man with 27 suppressors is playing with guns.
You don’t know that, and further you don’t care. You’ve made up your mind that “Guns Bad” and you won’t consider anything that disagrees with you. You are a zealot.
You do you, but it’s useless to discuss the issue with people like you. You ain’t going to hear it no matter what people say.
You call me a zealot, I call you a cultist. I see no reason why all guns and gun accessories shouldn’t be regulated. Fewer guns really does translate to fewer gun deaths, and making it a pain in the ass to shop for your murder stick accessories would further discourage people from participating in the “hobby”.
The difference is you call me a cultist because you are a zealot. I am willing to listen to reasonable arguments, you are not.
You know nothing at all about me, my reasons for gun ownership or what my stance actually is, and you don’t care to ask or make any distinction between me and a member of the MAGAt militia.
You see no reason… You could have just stopped there. How could you possibly see reason if you are immune to it?
Why should a soldier be required to injure themselves with their own weapons? Why should they risk hearing damage while training and fighting?
All small arms should be suppressed.
All small arms should be banned.