Australia did a pretty good job with gun buybacks, although that wasn’t a total ban. I won’t pretend to have a comprehensive plan for how to go about it, but I don’t think that’s reason not to push for it. I don’t think it will be easy in the US, but I also have run out of patience and compassion for gun owners. I stopped caring about the 2nd amendment a long time ago.
We are not even remotely close to the conditions of Australia when they implemented their ban. Believe it or not, I’d love to live in a gun-free country myself. I just look around and I can’t even imagine it. Right now, I can much more easily imagine right-wing death squads roaming the streets with the support of the police and military. Given the relative likelihood of those two scenarios, I really don’t think that pushing for any form of gun control is worthwhile right now. I know leftists are getting armed and training, and liberals would do well to consider doing the same. The fascists have been arming themselves for decades.
I hear what you’re saying, but don’t feel that participating in proliferating guns will make any meaningful progress towards my desire of a gun-free country.
Guns have already proliferated. Most people that have them have a lot of them. Someone with 20 guns can’t kill you any deader than he can with one. Just don’t wait for the cops to disarm the right wingers, because they never will. If things are going where it looks like they’re going, I would rather not bring a fist (or a trenchant legal argument) to a gun fight.
Sure, but I just disagree in this case. It’s the same thing. Proliferating guns is the best way to prevent them from being banned. A gun owner never wants to give up their gun.
Australia did a pretty good job with gun buybacks, although that wasn’t a total ban. I won’t pretend to have a comprehensive plan for how to go about it, but I don’t think that’s reason not to push for it. I don’t think it will be easy in the US, but I also have run out of patience and compassion for gun owners. I stopped caring about the 2nd amendment a long time ago.
We are not even remotely close to the conditions of Australia when they implemented their ban. Believe it or not, I’d love to live in a gun-free country myself. I just look around and I can’t even imagine it. Right now, I can much more easily imagine right-wing death squads roaming the streets with the support of the police and military. Given the relative likelihood of those two scenarios, I really don’t think that pushing for any form of gun control is worthwhile right now. I know leftists are getting armed and training, and liberals would do well to consider doing the same. The fascists have been arming themselves for decades.
I hear what you’re saying, but don’t feel that participating in proliferating guns will make any meaningful progress towards my desire of a gun-free country.
Guns have already proliferated. Most people that have them have a lot of them. Someone with 20 guns can’t kill you any deader than he can with one. Just don’t wait for the cops to disarm the right wingers, because they never will. If things are going where it looks like they’re going, I would rather not bring a fist (or a trenchant legal argument) to a gun fight.
“Buy a gun so the fascists don’t kill you” is the exact argument the fascists used to proliferate guns.
Don’t you understand how something can be true when one person says it, but not true when someone else says it?
Sure, but I just disagree in this case. It’s the same thing. Proliferating guns is the best way to prevent them from being banned. A gun owner never wants to give up their gun.
OK, good luck with that in a country where even “genocide isn’t on the ballot”.
We’ll need luck… everything is fucked. But I stand by belief that we need fewer guns, not more. Even if it’s not a realistic outcome.