• Alamutjones@aussie.zone
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    12 days ago

    Is it a dealbreaker for me? I don’t know, I’m still thinking about it.

    Is it a dealbreaker for the Ukrainian community Shoebridge is actively speaking to saying “don’t turn away from us”? Yes. It absolutely is, and it’s absolutely right for this to be so.

    He needs to own that policy choice to actively alienate the community he’s talking to. Not just lecture them about why his enlightened pacifist stance is so much better than “people I love are dying. Right now. Today”

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      12 days ago

      Well, I’m afraid it’s no dealbreaker to me and I’m of the mind the governments position alongside the US is as big a threat to Ukraine as is Shoebridge’s position. Reiterating that I don’t agree with it.

      I can’t speak for the Ukraine community; I’d imagine the view wouldn’t be popular, no.

      My personal view is that in the event of a Green led government, the position would have to change under pressure. That other Greens don’t hold to it suggests robust discussion at least…unlike some parties.

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        11 days ago

        That’s sort of my point. He’s laid out a policy stance that alienates a specific community, and now he’s blaming THEM for not finding him or his party trustworthy, telling them off for alienating themselves from the Greens.

        They didn’t alienate themselves. He did.

        However sound his reasons might have been or whatever else other parties might also be doing wrong…he has to own that policy choice, not blame the vulnerable minority community he’s upset by it for being upset

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          11 days ago

          Well, at the end of the day they’re in Australia as Australians and like any other Australian, should be expected to judge a party in Australia on a range of things.

          But yeah, it’s not the best look, at this time, in this world, which I guess is why I’m not fully on board.