• tankiesmasher@aussie.zone
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    10 days ago

    The Greens stance on it is as admirable as it’s always been. That the rest of the world can’t hold the same standard isn’t on them.

    Putting a policy in a vacuum is the worst possible way govern, and I hope this forever demonstrates why the Greens should never be allowed near the levers of power. Their brand of pacifism is identical to Trump’s: willfully ignorant of the downstream effects and motivated by anything but the material conditions of the victims.

    supporting a President who backs Ukraines enemy

    This is transparently guilt by association and nothing more. Our sovereign decision to support Ukraine has nothing to do with appeasing America. By your own logic we should be doing the opposite if it was relevant.

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      10 days ago

      Putting a policy in a vacuum…

      Bull shit. It’s been their position since forever and despite it being somewhat incompatible on a world full of arsehole leaders and arseholes that vote for them, it’s the mature one to take.

      wilfully ignorant

      My arse. What’s wilfully ignorant is a Labor government walking headlong into a fascist coalition because they’re too fucking spineless to stand up to it. They are hoping it sorts itself, which it won’t.

      This is transparently guilt…

      Fuck outta here with this shit as well. It’s been their position since forever; no arms supply. You’re right about the decision being outside our alliance with the US…they support Russia, and the current government supports the US. Until that changes, I’d shut up about who truly supports Ukraine.

      Edit: by my logic, we should supply arms to Ukraine. I’ve stated, on a few occasions now, that I don’t support the position. That said I’m not going to let major party centrists crap on the Greens when the current government is doing far worse, in a number of areas. Including backing Russia by proxy through backing the US.