The new Greens leader urged the Ukrainian-Australian community not to alienate his party during a tense meeting over its opposition to military aid for Ukraine.
As for ethical wars, you’d think those as keen to arm Ukraine would be as keen for us to arm Palestine as well, but I guess it’s not like that.
I suspect you’ve been listening/reading to Osman Faruqi this week. As I have. This is a point he made towards the end of the Lamestream podcast this week.
I couldn’t disagree more about the comparison. Even before October 7 I’d have never supported arming Palestinians. And it comes back to what we’ve been discussing about not all war being the same. These ‘wars’ for want of a better word have some similarities but are also very different.
Ukraine have an ability to fight that Palestinians don’t. Even without support from the ‘West’, Ukraine was in a stronger position towards their aggressor than Palestinians have been towards theirs in probably decades, if ever. If Australia, or a wide coalition were to start supplying weapons and related aid to Palestinians in these last decades it would have led to even more genocidal Israeli actions. The balance of power is greatly in the Israeli favour.
It would also have given the Israelis an added amount of moral ambiguity. Better able to legitimately claim they’re fighting a significant armed resistance, instead of murdering families in the streets and homes they live.
It was a fairly thoughtless comparison of Faruqi to draw, and tells me he’s arguing more against their political opponents than thinking about what gets Palestinians out of the terror and persecution they constantly live under.
It was a final quick comment to end on that sounded snappy, but his detractors will likely be hopping up and down about it like they do whenever they think they’ve got a killer line.
The tankie thing is grasping at straws. But anybody making claims like that these days should be careful, a supporter of theirs may hold very similar views to a tankie. Once you strip out the communist bunting and garlands from their purported belief structure whats left seems awfully similar to other absolutist heirarchys. But I’ll stop there because I really haven’t cared to look into tankies more than briefly.
I suspect you’ve been listening/reading to Osman Faruqi this week. As I have. This is a point he made towards the end of the Lamestream podcast this week.
I couldn’t disagree more about the comparison. Even before October 7 I’d have never supported arming Palestinians. And it comes back to what we’ve been discussing about not all war being the same. These ‘wars’ for want of a better word have some similarities but are also very different.
Ukraine have an ability to fight that Palestinians don’t. Even without support from the ‘West’, Ukraine was in a stronger position towards their aggressor than Palestinians have been towards theirs in probably decades, if ever. If Australia, or a wide coalition were to start supplying weapons and related aid to Palestinians in these last decades it would have led to even more genocidal Israeli actions. The balance of power is greatly in the Israeli favour.
It would also have given the Israelis an added amount of moral ambiguity. Better able to legitimately claim they’re fighting a significant armed resistance, instead of murdering families in the streets and homes they live.
It was a fairly thoughtless comparison of Faruqi to draw, and tells me he’s arguing more against their political opponents than thinking about what gets Palestinians out of the terror and persecution they constantly live under.
It was a final quick comment to end on that sounded snappy, but his detractors will likely be hopping up and down about it like they do whenever they think they’ve got a killer line.
The tankie thing is grasping at straws. But anybody making claims like that these days should be careful, a supporter of theirs may hold very similar views to a tankie. Once you strip out the communist bunting and garlands from their purported belief structure whats left seems awfully similar to other absolutist heirarchys. But I’ll stop there because I really haven’t cared to look into tankies more than briefly.