Small EVs and efficient people carriers update familiar names for the modern age.

  • isekaihero@ani.social
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    1 day ago

    When the smart car was released in the USA there was a 1 year waiting list because so many people wanted a cheap $7,000 car that they sold out everywhere. Then they stopped making small economy cars and forced the SUV down our throats.

    People absolutely would buy a cheap economy car in the USA. There is sky-high demand. It’s just not fulfilled because our auto industry is a racket and they know that if only crazy expensive cars are sold in the USA people will have no choice but to buy them. Transportation is a need, not a luxury. It’s like pricing water at $100 a bottle when everyone lives in the desert and your $100 water is the only water.

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      23 hours ago

      That tells you a bit about how fantastically well the “Invisible Hand” is working, isn’t it?

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        See the problem is the invisible hand isn’t what forced us to buy big cars. Auto regulations determining fuel economy by vehicle footprint is what killed small cars in general, including the smart car which is far too inefficient given it’s footprint to be sold in the USA. Cars as small as the smart car would need 70+ mpg to be sold under current regulations, so instead manufacturers make larger vehicles to fit inside of the regs. There’s a reason EVERY car model in the USA has only gotten larger every passing year, and it’s not just cuz “durrrr merican need big car”, although that is probably a good half of it… Here’s a random chart I found, not sure how accurate but u can search if your interested it’s all public info.

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          11 hours ago

          No, the regulations are not too strict for small cars, that is what the car industry wants you to think. The regulations for obese cars are far too weak and there is zero enforcement against commercially used car categories being sold for pure end consumer use.

          That is by design due to a breakdown of proper functioning of institutions and massive degradation of regulations by neglect and massive loophole exploitation, even widening those loopholes instead of closing them.

          That said, footprint based emission rules without strong safeguards are inherently flawed. There is a strong case against making emission standards relative to size for end consumer vehicles. A combined approach could work though, make footprint based emission a fix reqirement and then add meaningful cost to total emission, indepedendent of footprint. Exception for commercial vehicles are fine but only if commercial use is strictly enforced and not massively abused by actual end consumer use.

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      CAFE regulations are based on vehclicle footprint as of 2012. That’s why all the small trucks suddenly disappeared from the market that year. They had stricter fuel-economy standards than a sedan. The giant vehicles we’re gettimg today is the result of regulations that make it easier to just keep making vehicles bigger than to make them more efficient.

      People will pay good money for a 15yo Ranger because you can’t get an equivalent vehicle new. The marketing to make oversized cars trendy is to prevent competition for the new vehicles coming from the used market.

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      23 hours ago

      I respect your optimism. Just because the Smart sold out doesn’t mean it sold a lot, though. It’s amazing in areas where parking is scarce. But outside of that, people love driving their tanks. Unfortunately, many of them buy tanks because they feel like you need a tank to be safe at this point, because of all the other tanks, and there is some evidence they are correct. I live in an area full of Escalades and jacked up Man Trucks.