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cross-posted from: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/13032398
Somebody wrote a paper about us. Apologies to the mods for not censoring names but given that it is literally public I couldn’t give a shit.
I find their abstract really funny… and its even funnier that they are watching us.
Anyhow leave ur reactions below


I know of Michael Sivirianos. From what I hear from relatives, his family is pretty right-wing. I know people who have had him as a colleague. He’s a second rate professor of computers who managed to carve out a career out of studying social media, which nets him significant grants from the EU, as his conclusions usually lead to “it’s Russian bots!”. He has been obsessed with “extreme left wing spaces” since a few years ago. He co-wrote a similar study on the GenZedong subreddit.
Here’s a PDF of this study: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2507.23699
Here’s an interesting quote highlighting the academic level of these hacks (emphasis mine):
They use the word “tankie” multiple times throughout the paper by the way.
A short summary of what they did (further demonstrating the ridiculous academic rigor of these characters):
They go on to describe how they used various LLMs to scrape the site of posts, shortly before and after the GenZedong subreddit was quarantined by reddit (probably what was causing a lot of outages back then) and had the AIs grade the “toxicity” levels of each post (they fail to mention what exactly where their criteria for their grading system, which indicates it was probably based on their own perspectives).
Then isolated keywords in posts to identify the top 20 topics of discussion and manually checked 100 posts per topic to ensure the LLMs did their work correctly. Out of 2000 posts they checked, they present 3 as examples that highlight:
Interestingly, they actually point out that many posts condemning Israel are careful to also condemn antisemitism. However, they still come up with a horse-shoe theory conclusion that we are just as antisemitic as right-wing extremist spaces
Essentially, they did the bare minimum in analyzing their data, presented highly subjective criteria to categorize their data, counted words without context to present pre-determined conclusions, and only gave 3 random posts as examples to support their conclusions (one of which is a pretty bad example of a typical post and all 3 fail to highlight their points). Not to mention there’s barely any discussion on the validity of their methods, minimal discussion on previous work, and their conclusions take up 2 short paragraphs. Their statistical analysis seems to be non-existent, and there’s barely any comparisons. They have 4 graphs and a table summarizing their data, and wrote a 6-page long paper (of which half is the reference list). They reference frequently 2 particular communities (c/genzhouarchive and c/genzedong), but they are very unclear whether the posts they collected are just from there, or they are coming from other places as well, which I attribute to hasty writing.
I have a suspicion that the only reason this paper exists is because they had some sort of deadline on publishing something or else they risked losing their grant. I have no idea how this paper passed peer-review based on my criticisms above.
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Couldn’t find the second quote, but it’s when I noticed that this got xposted a bunch a little over a year ago
Couldn’t find the 3rd either.