Is this to give us a way to get drunk and forget that they stripped women of their bodily autonomy and prevented presidents from being held accountable for their crimes?
It’s legal to produce the alcohol for personal consumption via fermentation. How dare you remove some of the water from it.
Wait, I can’t make liquor? They sell stovetop stills, and someone who isn’t me has been making some for the past year. I think it’s not illegal in my state, so there is no nexus to interstate commerce so the feds should have no jurisdiction but we don’t follow the constitution so idk.
Could just be an example of an unenforceable law. The feds aren’t gonna go around knocking down doors to check for distilleries. Immigrants on the other hand…
Locals can rat you out to the feds to make the case though, unless forbidden by state law in doing so. Just as they do with so called civil asset forfeiture, (states have their own versions, federal version is lucrative for them, feds only take a small cut, locals keep 90 percent or something.
As someone from North Carolina, this is the first we are hearing of this “ban”. You sure it applies to us?
Is this like the moonshine ban?
I started drinking at age 16 on pure 96% moonshine. Got absolutely blackout legless hammered every time. I drank it because it was the easiest to get hold of and way cheaper than any other alcohol. Almost died the rock star death of choking in my own puke a couple of times. When I got to 18 and was allowed to buy it I switched to mostly beer and wine. Still got blackouts every now and then since, up through my 20s, but not anywhere near to the levels I was at in the beginning. I think that was both attributed to knowing my limits and maturing a tiny bit. Now in my 40s I hardly ever drink a beer and even one gives me quite a buzz.
Not sure if I would have had the same experience if moonshine was legal.
You’re lucky to be here.
I think you might have been an alcoholic
I didn’t say I drank every day.
Where I live in Western Europe beer is legal at 16 and hard liquor at 18. Illegal alcohol is close to non existent. You get the occasional hobby brewer and that’s about it. There’s a little crime in fake expensive liquor but even that is occasional.
What you noticed is what we see here with tobacco though. They keep trying to phase it away by increasing taxes and upping the age limit from 16 to 18. They’re also trying to ban e-liquid flavors. But what really happens is that there are now a lot of illegal cigarettes and vapes making their way to teenagers. Not to mention stuff like unregulated THC vapes that actually contain synthetic weed and can be extremely dangerous.
Governments have always been making things worse.
Norway here. We have 18 and 20. The kids aren’t drinking the same way we did now though. They start later and not as heavily. I think that is a good thing. But yeah, I guess you have a point. We drank more and more beer and wine as well, if we could get hold of it. But money was an important factor. Moonshine was so much cheaper. A bottle of the stuff and half a liter of soda and you had enough for the entire night. So I think I would have chosen it a lot anyway before I got older and had more of a disposable income.
Home distilling would be awesome without the fear of uncle sam breaking through your door demanding taxes
The law is kinda absurd. By the same logic, home cooking should be made illegal because we can’t tax it like a restaurant meal. Despite that, I’m sure that when the big players catch wind of this case going to the supreme court, they’ll make sure all our justices are well paid enough to make sure it stays illegal.
One is necessary for life.
The other has a high incident of domestic abuse.
Yeah, goddamn woman burnt the fucking casserole again.
Guess we want more people blinded, for some reason
Propaganda
That’s only when the government poisons alcohol during things like prohibition to purposely blind people. It doesn’t happen from regular fermentation or distillation you’d do to make drinking alcohol
https://www.historynewsnetwork.org/article/deborah-blum-how-the-government-poisoned-people-du
I have heard of that, they still poison ethanol nowadays for that purpose I hear. Meanwhile in prohibition they had medical alcohol and people bribed officials to get huge amounts of real liquor.
You get some methanol in making liquor. It depends mostly on things like fruit peels, or gin because of the juniper. That is why you dump everything produced from 160 degrees until 180, as methanol has a lower boiling point.
The antidote to methanol is alcohol though. But you have 20 minutes before permanent damage results. And death is one of those damages.
The blindness is because it makes formic acid in your blood, the same stuff red ants and stinging nettles use.
Alcohol has preferential binding on the receptors, so it pushes off the methanol.
I mean, yeah you can definitely go blind or worse if you drink the foreshots, and someone starting out fresh without knowing about that isn’t a remote possibility
If you used contaminated alcohol maybe, distilling doesn’t create additional methanol or separate it. The hard part of removing methanol is that its all throughout the liqour and hard to distill out. That’s why it’s important to ferment your own like how people that make kombucha or beer at home.
Where the problem came from during prohibition was people distilling alcohol they bought off the shelf like wood grain alcohol or other stuff that the government had methanol added to it to try and stop people from using it. Or people in places around the world that buy that kind of alcohol and dilute it out a bit since its cheap but then end up killing people that buy it without knowing.
Things like orange juice will most likely have more methanol than anything you’d ferment distill at home unless you start going industrial grade and use things like pectin enzymes. People distill their own alcohol around the world in places like India without issue for example. I only really started looking into all this because my coworker was showing me his distillation setup he had back on his farm in India
I’m not a chemist or anything but after learning more about it I learn how most of the blindness stuff and everything is mostly myth in the hobby world and a lot of it was created during prohibition
If you don’t start from corn there’s not very much methanol in wheat I have read.
Huh. I thought that was actually allowed under certain amounts or something.
My mom and I were once offered genuine moonshine in South Carolina. The only reasons we didn’t take it were that we don’t drink alcohol and were flying home soon after, and didn’t know the rules for that. It was in a mason jar. I think it would have been a neat keepsake of the trip.
Oh, I didn’t even realize that I broke a federal crime. Huh.
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand thaaaaaat’s how we make tha-moonshine!
Big dumb dumb juice make big boom
Oh shit, one more thing to go fix!.
…If Tickle can’t get an A on his law examination, he will lose his moonshiners scholarship and wont pass the bar examination in time to fight for moonshine in court!. Meanwhile at the apalachian country side law enforcement has found the already running still concealed beneath all those dang lawbooks!
