“These re-interviews are consequential,” a leaked email seen by 404 Media reads.
  • arisunz@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    36·
    2 days ago

    istg these imbeciles are going to get me to self host my own email server.

    white hairs here i fucking come.

      • Reygle@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        16 hours ago

        Tuta

        I just did. My only slight annoyance is their desktop app doesn’t import old mail the way I’d like it to. The rest of the switch- domain DNS on my own domain name, etc- less than 15 minutes. Completely painless.

    • undrwater@lemmy.worldEnglish
      31·
      2 days ago

      I’ve done that and learned a lot. Microsoft (Outlook, Hotmail) won’t accept your email without paying them, or forwarding through someone who does (proton?).

        • ThreeKnew@lemdro.idEnglish
          1·
          1 day ago

          Thanks for making me realize that I literally don’t even need to be able to deliver to MS and I can just use my mailserver 😭

        • undrwater@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          2 days ago

          As am I. i don’t forward through anyone. All working well, but the learning process did, as you alluded to, give me white hairs.

          • arisunz@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
            1·
            2 days ago

            noted, thank you.

            while we’re here, any other tips i should keep in mind? what’s your stack (if you don’t mind sharing)?

            • undrwater@lemmy.worldEnglish
              3·
              2 days ago

              Postfix, Dovecot, MySQL (MariaDB), postgrey, spamassasin.

              Tips:

              • once you get it running, keep close control and be prepared to shut down when the spam hounds find you.
              • Do set up dmarc, dkim, and spf
              • Put your server on spamhaus.org
              • Don’t start if you’re feeling lazy, this will take a lot of mental attention.

              I did mine before LLM’s, so I can’t comment how useful this will be, but I worry one might not understand the decisions made.

      • cley_faye@lemmy.worldEnglish
        51·
        2 days ago

        Microsoft (Outlook, Hotmail) won’t accept your email without paying them, or forwarding through someone who does

        That’s absolutely not true. They sometimes bork some messages and signatures internally, but aside from that, delivery to MS stuff (and that includes a lot of business behind their “outlook protection” service) has been fine for years.

        And, contrary to old beliefs, it has been mostly fine all around. Just properly setup DKIM, your DMARC and SPF records, and don’t actually send spam. The worst that could happen is if you’re trying to send through some residential IP, as large blocks can occasionally get blocked. But a cheap hosting anywhere (even in a spamfarm-ridden provider) is very likely to work fine.

        • ThreeKnew@lemdro.idEnglish
          2·
          1 day ago

          Lol no

          Maybe if you’ve got a 10 year old domain that’s been actively sending legit email everyday or something, but my email from my server goes straight to spam on outlook. Literally everywhere else is fine.

          // yes my dmarc, dkim and spf are fine. No I’m not on any blocklists. No my IP is not a residential IP lol. The domain and server just turned 1 year old last week :]

          • cley_faye@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            1 day ago

            Well, I must have imagined all the traffic being fine going out from an OVH server all this time then /shrug

            • ThreeKnew@lemdro.idEnglish
              1·
              14 minutes ago

              Listen, I’m happy for you that your setup works, truly. I’m absolutely not trying to imply that it isn’t. It’s simply just not “fine all around”. It’s fine for you.

        • undrwater@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          1 day ago

          I just looked and they’ve blocked the whole IP range from the VPS provider (digital ocean in this case). I assume many vps’ have the same issue.

          Sent a few messages to them so here’s hoping.

        • undrwater@lemmy.worldEnglish
          31·
          2 days ago

          I’m sending through a vps and have properly set up all the things (dmarc, dkim, spf, et al).

          It was years ago when I set up, but I spent some time trying to get the mail to go through (wife uses Hotmail). The rabbit hole led me to a service I could purchase that would allow the mail to go through. Many fora articles paralleled my own experiences.

          I don’t send spam, and my “reputation” is good. I’ll look into it again.