• betanumerus@lemmy.ca
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            Which confirms they are not “exactly the same”. The ICE agents I’ve seen are unprofessional, and not nearly as disciplined as military soldiers able to march, run obstacle courses, and instill confidence in civilians.

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              and respect civilians

              American military? The ones who bombed an elementary school and continuously target Caribbean fishermen? I’m glad you’ve seen a different side of them, but they’re not generally big on respecting civilians.

              Unless you mean American civilians, which is kind of a fucked up distinction to draw, because American lives aren’t worth more than anyone else’s.

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                hey chump, you don’t get to say what we say is fucked up -


                Our Rules “3. Be excellent to each other!”

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          Maybe by definition, but in practice ICE looks like the military these days.

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            The military only works on US soil when called upon to help people, never to hurt anyone. ICE mimicking a military look is to intimidate people. They have shown to be much less competent than the military, and without being called for.

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              ICE is a paramilitary force. Arguing that they are not a military is pedantic and serves to detract from the severity of the institution’s atrocities.

              The military only works on US soil when called upon to help people, never to hurt anyone.

              Historically, this is not true.

              ICE mimicking a military look is to intimidate people. They have shown to be much less competent than the military, and without being called for.

              No, ICE is mimicking a military to occupy cities that are not politically aligned with the president. They are a paramilitary force that aims to punish political dissidents. Their competency relative to established militaries is beside the point entirely. In fact, it just makes them more dangerous.

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                We agree that ICE is paramilitary, and not military (not part of DoD). I say “to intimidate” the people they’re after, you go further and say it’s to “occupy cities” and “punish political dissidents”. Well that would cover indimidation. I have not followed them closely enough to confirm they go so far as you say. I have seen their brutality, the topic of this chat, in action and this is what confirms their incompetence.